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Old 18 Apr 2012, 06:55 (Ref:3061277)   #1
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Open letter to F.O.M

Alright chaps,

After China, i have finally had enough of the endless startline replays that seem to be growing like a cancer between laps 2-4 of the Grand Prix so i gone done a letter to Bernie's cronies:

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Dear Sir/Madam,

I am becoming increasingly disheartened with a certain aspect of your
Formula One coverage (FOM World feed).

Over the past few seasons, i have noticed an increase in the number of
startline/first corner replays shown during the opening laps of a
Grand Prix. This weekend’s Chinese Grand Prix was a prime example of
the problem in my eyes. Mid-way through Lap 3 of the GP, just as ‘DRS’
was enabled, the director preceded to show 1 minute and 50 seconds
worth of replays of the start/first corner. It is worth bearing in
mind that a lap of Shanghai International Circuit is around 1m40s, so
we were effectively missing 1 and a bit laps what is unarguably a
crucial stage of the race.

Granted, in this instance, there were several shuffles of position
that needed covering, but i feel that an aerial view and perhaps an
onboard would be adequate. As a fan/viewer, i acknowledge what has
happened but i am far more interested in what is happening ‘live’.

It is wonderful that the sport is being captured in so many new
angles, but i feel that this level of analysis should be something
left to the discretion of the national broadcaster’s to use after the
race when there is ample time to digest them in depth.

I don’t expect a reply, i just ask that this is passes under the nose
of a member of your production team for consideration.

Yours sincerely,

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A friend of mine has used this as a template of a letter to F1Racing magazine. Viva la Revolution!
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 06:57 (Ref:3061278)   #2
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Very good point.

I did notice this in China, too. It'd be nice to hold off on those replays for about, 4-5 laps, at least.

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Old 18 Apr 2012, 07:02 (Ref:3061280)   #3
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I couldn't agree more! Another thing that gets me is when the director has a shot of a team representative relevant to the car under attack/attacking. I know this builds tension at the start, yet half the time we miss half of the overtake due to cutting to a team rep.
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 07:40 (Ref:3061300)   #4
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And could use be made of split screen or picture within picture when there is an important pitstop and a battle on the track at the sametime?
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 07:41 (Ref:3061301)   #5
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can't they just do split screen?
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 07:48 (Ref:3061305)   #6
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Can only agree with Peat's sentiments here!
At least let the GP get ten laps in.
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 08:31 (Ref:3061337)   #7
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Can only agree with Peat's sentiments here!
At least let the GP get ten laps in.
And when something happens on lap 11 everyone will be bleating about how they didn't see it due to start replays.

As for split-screen, isn't that what the Sky "Red Button" is for?
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 08:44 (Ref:3061344)   #8
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As for split-screen, isn't that what the Sky "Red Button" is for?
well, picture in picture
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 08:55 (Ref:3061355)   #9
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Someone suggested to me that i should just switch over to an onboard feed when the replays start. I will certainly be doing this until they get thier act together.
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 10:59 (Ref:3061409)   #10
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And when something happens on lap 11 everyone will be bleating about how they didn't see it due to start replays.

As for split-screen, isn't that what the Sky "Red Button" is for?
Not available in Australia.
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 11:48 (Ref:3061440)   #11
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Nor for Virgin viewers.

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Old 18 Apr 2012, 12:05 (Ref:3061448)   #12
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suggest adding a "ps" at the end regarding far too many shots of nicole shi... scherzinger in moments of hamilton related tension. every time they cut to her i secretly hope she's picking her nose or yawning
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 12:26 (Ref:3061460)   #13
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Agreed, bella.

Or just any random 'celebs' I know/care NOTHING of/about.

And have nothing to do with F1, whatsoever.

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Old 18 Apr 2012, 13:57 (Ref:3061512)   #14
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I hate it when they interview a driver who has retired in the middle of a race. Rather than just having their voice over the top of the action, or indeed having a small screen within a screen, the producers insist on cutting to a mugshot of said driver being interviewed by Lee McKenzie (other presenters/broadcasters available).

I know what the drivers look like, and my ability to listen to them isn't related to my being able to see them!
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suggest adding a "ps" at the end regarding far too many shots of nicole shi... scherzinger in moments of hamilton related tension. every time they cut to her i secretly hope she's picking her nose or yawning
Other's are hoping she's feeling a bit warm and decides to strip off
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 18:12 (Ref:3061599)   #16
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I'm waiting for the time they cut to her on the warm-up lap and John Button is saying "No, they haven't started yet".

On the topic of the thread. I agree, they show too much and too early. Show a reply a little later when it has settled down more, if it has! And maybe show the reply of a particular drive later if they've followed him for a bit.
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Old 18 Apr 2012, 21:16 (Ref:3061709)   #17
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i cant say it bothers me too much and if something special happens during that replay they will show later as a replay...hopefully. of course all of this could be solved by multiple feeds via an online subscription unfortunately the circus found easier ways to make money of us.

what i do miss, and i cant remember at what track they have it at but it might have been indy, but they used to have this amazing camera that would launch down the track at ground level and follow the start to the run down into turn 1. loved that shot and wish that it was incorporated into all the new tracks but no such luck...i hope thats not something that i made up.
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Why can't they do a split screen? For all the glamorous gizmos you think they'd master the split screen. Show both the replay and the live-action at once. I have to think of everything for FOM I really do.

I don't really mind. What I HATE - HATE - HATE is looking at relatives during the action. The director loves leering at the relatives. It's not confined to motorracing either, it there in alot of sports. Nicole S. should give the camera the two fingers. That stop that carry-on dead in its tracks.
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Works for me on my TiVo. No idea about the V+ though.

I'm often out on a GP Sunday (something to do with UK motorsport) so I recorded the Chinese GP and watched it last night. I was yelling at the TV after the third camera change of the start replays. Very very annoying.

The red button doesn't work on recordings either... And yes I know why :-)
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It annoys me too, the replays seem almost obligatory, even if the start was uneventful when the racing's good.

If the replays really, really must be shown, why don't they show them all in the Valencia Grand Prix so we don't have to watch it.
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haha i just brought this up about Button in another thread. i cant put my finger on it but sometimes i hate it and sometimes i love it.

for example seeing the emotion on massa's dad's face at brazil in 2008 is an absolutely iconic image...it said everything that needs to be said about sports and competition, joy and sorrow, without anyone ever having to ruin it with commentary.

i think on the whole it adds to the show for me.
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haha i just brought this up about Button in another thread. i cant put my finger on it but sometimes i hate it and sometimes i love it.

for example seeing the emotion on massa's dad's face at brazil in 2008 is an absolutely iconic image...it said everything that needs to be said about sports and competition, joy and sorrow, without anyone ever having to ruin it with commentary.

i think on the whole it adds to the show for me.
I quite like it when the camera focuses on Nicole Scherzinger, and I can pick my finger on why. She's a lot sexier than a modern Formula One car.
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haha too true!

its a mystery why anyone would complain about her appearance when its clearly her singing that should be driving people mad!
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I agree far too much of Nicole, but more of Jenson's girlfriend Jessica would be nice.
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can't they just do split screen?
I like this idea. Keep the live racevon the screen at all times, but maybe split the screen or go picture-in-picture with replays, interviews, and whatever else.

I might go one further and ask for something I see with IndyCar coverage - break up tbd screen during commercials with the live race in a small window. That might be up yo the network broadcasting the race, though.
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