US Grand Prix- Austin (USA) - Page 14

**bjohnsonsmith** · 10 Jul 2010, 22:28 (Ref:2724588)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

As far as I can tell this project has the go ahead and they have the land already to build on...I thought I read on Joe Sawards blog which I can not seem to find? that Tevo Helmund and a lady from our state government would be attending Silverstone this weekend.

It seems to me that if a State Controller from Texas is going all the way to England it's not because she is a racing fan..

That certainly is a new development and what you say about the State Controller makes sense.

Did you hear or read about Bernie possibly still looking at NJ to hold the race?

JeremySmith · 10 Jul 2010, 22:41 (Ref:2724592)

Yes I did hear about that, now is that Bernie waffle? who knows, I sure don't to be honest..

**bjohnsonsmith** · 10 Jul 2010, 22:53 (Ref:2724595)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

Yes I did hear about that, now is that Bernie waffle? who knows, I sure don't to be honest..

Maybe your right but it seems strange he would bring it up again, having already been rebuffed once.

JeremySmith · 16 Jul 2010, 01:21 (Ref:2727369)

The latest news....I think it is on, and if it is then lQQk out....Darn it!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85287

Birddog07 · 16 Jul 2010, 03:22 (Ref:2727387)

It'll probalbly be a combo of classic corners but ruined by chicanes to slow the entry and massive runoff if the driver gets it wrong.

ECW Dan Selby · 16 Jul 2010, 07:58 (Ref:2727432)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

The latest news....I think it is on, and if it is then lQQk out....Darn it!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85287

:O They stole my idea!!!

Selby

Wims · 16 Jul 2010, 08:27 (Ref:2727442)

Classic corners after classic corner .... Magny-Cours anyone? Not that I dont like Magny-Cours, it had a very interesting layout in my opinion, and awesome elevation changes as well. Just a great drive altogether

ECW Dan Selby · 16 Jul 2010, 11:08 (Ref:2727492)

Is that what Magny Cours based on...?!

Selby

fieldodreams79 · 16 Jul 2010, 11:21 (Ref:2727497)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

The latest news....I think it is on, and if it is then lQQk out....Darn it!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85287

while all if that sounds very promising, it is still all talk, IMO.

they are at least saying what I want to hear.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 16 Jul 2010, 19:14 (Ref:2727732)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

The latest news....I think it is on, and if it is then lQQk out....Darn it!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85287

I'm glad to hear it's not a bit wishy washy.

Quintin03 · 16 Jul 2010, 20:17 (Ref:2727762)

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Originally Posted by ECW Dan Selby

Is that what Magny Cours based on...?!

Selby

Estoril is a copy of the final curve at Estoril. Adelaide is a copy of the hairpin of Adelaide. Nurburgring must be somewhere at the Nürburgring, maybe the former first sequence. Imola must be somewhere at Imola but I can't find it.

ECW Dan Selby · 16 Jul 2010, 22:11 (Ref:2727803)

Yeah, I knew about Estoril and Adelaide but didn't realise there were more corners based on famous ones. I can't quite figure Imola or Nurburgring, either..

Selby

Spritle · 17 Jul 2010, 12:06 (Ref:2727967)

The more details Tavo Hellmund gives, the less I believe him.

It reminds me of Peter Windsor before the USF1 debacle. I realize it's two different things but it sounds like puffing to me.

Knowlesy · 17 Jul 2010, 12:18 (Ref:2727970)

I feel a Donington coming on, minus the ruined classic track.

JeremySmith · 17 Jul 2010, 20:25 (Ref:2728227)

I still think that this will happen...

Rgms320 · 18 Jul 2010, 09:29 (Ref:2728383)

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Originally Posted by Spritle

The more details Tavo Hellmund gives, the less I believe him.

"I've got a piece of property, but I'm not telling you where it is."

"I've secured financing, but I won't tell you the source."

"Tilke has designed me the best track in the world."

browney · 18 Jul 2010, 10:02 (Ref:2728390)

After having GPs in the US seemed not important enough to keep Indy, why does Bernie now want two? Obviously there should be at least on US GP, it was a mistake not to have a GP in the biggest market for cars. If they had done this a year or so ago, maybe we would have kept one of Honda, Toyota and/or BMW.

Which GPs are going then? I can't see more than 20 races.

I assume Turkey (good track, no spectators) and Australia (lots of spectators, too early in the morning for Bernie).

ECW Dan Selby · 19 Jul 2010, 10:59 (Ref:2728959)

Yeh, Turkey seems like it will go, unfortunately.

I wouldn't be too surprised to see Valencia disappear, too.

Selby

Purist · 19 Jul 2010, 15:53 (Ref:2729103)

I think the first two to go will be Turkey and China. They both want out of their money-losing contracts, ASAP.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 19 Jul 2010, 16:00 (Ref:2729108)

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Originally Posted by Purist

I think the first two to go will be Turkey and China. They both want out of their money-losing contracts, ASAP.

And who will follow them?

Purist · 19 Jul 2010, 18:36 (Ref:2729206)

That one is harder to say. It could be Valencia, but if Malaysia's contract runs out first, and they don't get the refurbishments Bernie wants done, then Sepang would probably be the third one to go.

As for replacements, Moscow Raceway, Dubai Autodrome, and Losail, Qatar.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 19 Jul 2010, 19:05 (Ref:2729222)

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Originally Posted by Purist

That one is harder to say. It could be Valencia, but if Malaysia's contract runs out first, and they don't get the refurbishments Bernie wants done, then Sepang would probably be the third one to go.

As for replacements, Moscow Raceway, Dubai Autodrome, and Losail, Qatar.

More Gulf-State GPs.

Spritle · 19 Jul 2010, 19:39 (Ref:2729243)

I wonder IF or just how many of the newest venues make ANY money on F1.

Will a time come when the Extortionist's tactics backfire on him and the prospect of spending millions if not a billion on facilities, all for the honour of holding a Grand Prix for a few years before being extorted into paying more will fall on deaf ears...

...even in the far away places with strange sounding names?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the stands in many new venues are empty whilst Silverstone was mobbed because of interest or a lack thereof.

Are there that many dumb people still left on the planet?

Purist · 19 Jul 2010, 19:49 (Ref:2729249)

The late, great, George Carlin:

"Think about how dumb the average person is... Now realize that half the people are dumber than that."

**bjohnsonsmith** · 19 Jul 2010, 19:59 (Ref:2729262)

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Originally Posted by Spritle

I wonder IF or just how many of the newest venues make ANY money on F1.

Will a time come when the Extortionist's tactics backfire on him and the prospect of spending millions if not a billion on facilities, all for the honour of holding a Grand Prix for a few years before being extorted into paying more will fall on deaf ears...

...even in the far away places with strange sounding names?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the stands in many new venues are empty whilst Silverstone was mobbed because of interest or a lack thereof.

Are there that many dumb people still left on the planet?

P.T. Barnham said, 'There's a sucker born every minute.'

As for how long it take for the Extortionist's tactics backfire on him? Probably not for a while or as long as countries feel it's something prestigeous and it's worth joining the GP Holder's Club, rather than hosting a GP for the betterment of the sport.

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