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Old 17 Apr 2014, 01:06 (Ref:3393625)   #2951
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Looks like Dyson is taking their program elsewhere for the time being.
Probably for good. With MMPR's new absence, and likely, ESM's forthcoming followed by Oak...
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 02:07 (Ref:3393641)   #2952
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Probably for good. With MMPR's new absence, and likely, ESM's forthcoming followed by Oak...
Well there is always the Delta Wing and the Mazda SkyActive
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 02:57 (Ref:3393649)   #2953
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Putting whatever you might think of ESM aside... when was the last time a HPD was competitive when they've had real competition? No HPD's in Europe last year, not sure that there are any this year... just not the car of choice.
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 03:03 (Ref:3393651)   #2954
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Putting whatever you might think of ESM aside... when was the last time a HPD was competitive when they've had real competition? No HPD's in Europe last year, not sure that there are any this year... just not the car of choice.
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 03:22 (Ref:3393656)   #2955
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Putting whatever you might think of ESM aside... when was the last time a HPD was competitive when they've had real competition? No HPD's in Europe last year, not sure that there are any this year... just not the car of choice.
With the current tilted BOP, would any P2 chassis be the car of choice in the Tudor divided sports car series?
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 03:26 (Ref:3393658)   #2956
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Ouch.......


I hate to say it but maybe thie series needs esm and a big gtlm to pull out so they can fix this mess.i highly doubt they care if any gtd, oak,or srt,risi,falken leave.....
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 05:10 (Ref:3393679)   #2957
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Putting whatever you might think of ESM aside... when was the last time a HPD was competitive when they've had real competition? No HPD's in Europe last year, not sure that there are any this year... just not the car of choice.
Starworks in WEC/at Le Mans in 2012?
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 06:37 (Ref:3393698)   #2958
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Starworks in WEC/at Le Mans in 2012?
Was it competetive?..............or was it the most reliable?
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 11:40 (Ref:3393794)   #2959
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I think that over a 24 hour race reliable is competitive, at least in P2.
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 12:09 (Ref:3393810)   #2960
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This is endurance racing, reliability is a key factor.
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Old 17 Apr 2014, 12:29 (Ref:3393833)   #2961
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Starworks in WEC/at Le Mans in 2012?
Exactly... even then as others have implied, it was often more about reliability than pace... in the shorter TUSC races, that isn't as important. After Starworks left, nobody was interested in the HPD, as it was never the fastest car, and the reliability of the Nissan was just as good.

Really the only car that we should expect to be competitive now is the OAK car, but then the BoP is pretty tricky, and next to impossible to get right. Perhaps in the end just two incompatible rules sets, that no matter what you do... Of course DHH said this well over a year ago.
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 19:07 (Ref:3394620)   #2962
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http://www.imsa.com/articles/five-qu...s-dane-cameron
Dane Cameron making it clear that he will be back in the Turner BMW GTD for Laguna Seca

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/s...iday-notebook/
Also, AMR saying they won't return to TUSCC until "things are sorted out".

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Old 18 Apr 2014, 19:44 (Ref:3394650)   #2963
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Hmmm, I seem to remember a certain someone being positive Turner was gone...
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 19:54 (Ref:3394658)   #2964
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The reason why Turner went into the PWC was for more sponser exposer since the GTD got its racing schedule cut down. The GTD team don't get to race for 7 weeks, not good for sponser.

I would love to see TUSC allow full GT3 cars in next year, then racing teams can go back and forth between the PWC and the TUSC.
Maybe TUSC should also allow SCCA built cars in too like the Caddies, just for the heck of it.
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Old 18 Apr 2014, 20:00 (Ref:3394663)   #2965
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The reason why Turner went into the PWC was for more sponser exposer since the GTD got its racing schedule cut down. The GTD team don't get to race for 7 weeks, not good for sponser.
Paul is the sponsor of the GTD program. Running PWC cost him more money, it wasn't a ploy to get NorthWest more coverage.

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Dane Cameron making it clear that he will be back in the Turner BMW GTD for Laguna Seca

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/s...iday-notebook/
Also, AMR saying they won't return to TUSCC until "things are sorted out".
Interesting comment for the latter article......oak?

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And a couple tidbits from DSC say another “high profile” team will be withdrawing from the TUSC early next week and the Ligier won’t be making a TUSC appearance if the BoP isn’t addressed. At a rate of one team per week dropping out, by the time Petit rolls around it’ll be the Ganassi car racing the Taylor car and that’s about it. It looks like I may have attended my last Petit LeMans. It’s a pity because I had such high hopes for this new series.
Back in ’99 we had a guy step up and form a sports car racing series that became the best in the country. Is there another mega-rich guy out there who can do the same thing in ’15?
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And a couple tidbits from DSC say another “high profile” team will be withdrawing from the TUSC early next week and the Ligier won’t be making a TUSC appearance if the BoP isn’t addressed. At a rate of one team per week dropping out, by the time Petit rolls around it’ll be the Ganassi car racing the Taylor car and that’s about it. It looks like I may have attended my last Petit LeMans. It’s a pity because I had such high hopes for this new series.
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Hmmm, I seem to remember a certain someone being positive Turner was gone...
A: I don't have friends in that team, that info was all third hand.
B: I'm not perfect.
C. Neither are you. Unless you are Jesus.

I often will repeat what I hear at the risk of being very wrong, it happens, I don't care. No journalist is perfect either.

When you read the news release, and add in the info I'd heard, it was 100% guaranteed they were gone. It's wasn't right..oh well.

On another note, nobody died because of it.
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Not to mention that it seemed as though everyone up to Will Turner wasn't sure Paul was going to be at Sebring until almost literally the last possible moment. It's more than conceivable that they could've been leaving at one point, and now are not.

It sounds like Cameron/Palttala will be the lineup though, does that make GTD driver grading rules?
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Old 21 Apr 2014, 20:03 (Ref:3396380)   #2971
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And we have a Laguna Seca entry list

http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...ist%204-21.pdf
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total entries: 57 -- for two races.

Next up: F1 races reporting all cumulated entries of all different races running on 'their' race weekend on 'their' track.

I'm at the stage where this is an awkward screwball style comedy and you're wondering whether you can keep watching through the next awkward part so you'll have something to laugh at again a bit later.

Next up: P-only races at PLM, because heck why not, multi class racing is for those euros anyways?

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total entries: 57 -- for two races.

Next up: F1 races reporting all cumulated entries of all different races running on 'their' race weekend on 'their' track.

I'm at the stage where this is an awkward screwball style comedy and you're wondering whether you can keep watching through the next awkward part so you'll have something to laugh at again a bit later.

Next up: P-only races at PLM, because heck why not, multi class racing is for those euros anyways?
A lot could be better in the series - but to me this post is a prime example of people looking (a bit too hard) for things which are wrong in order to get in extra digs.

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The one obvious name missing from the Laguna Seca entry list is GMG Racing. What’s their status?
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As I said a few weeks ago - they really can afford to pass on TUSCC as they have a 3-4 car presence in PWC and are fully competitive unlike in TUSCC where the Audis seem to be last in the lunch line. The only surprise would be that the would miss the California event.
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