IMSA Race TUSC Round 3: The Tequila Patron Sportscar Showcase at Long Beach

[Danske]

Originally Posted by MoMedic9019

This is a ridiculous statement. They did. How small do you want it?

Compare: http://www.fia.com/sites/default/fil...2%20(2014).pdf
and
http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...20%2314-75.pdf

[Maelochs]

belt driven says: "I sometimes wonder why they didn’t just slap a smaller restrictor on the P2s."

This is an old discussion ... maybe you missed part of it.

Short version:
DPs were so slow that they couldn't race on the same track with modern racecars, so they had to be speeded up, or the whole series dumbed down so much no one would bother watching.

More detailed version:
Problem with restricting the P2s was that they were faster than the DPs, PCs, and GTEs ... but the DPs were Not faster than the PCs and not a Lot faster than the GTEs. Slowing the P2s would have caused potential pile-ups at every corner when the P2s, DPs, and PCs and the quickest GTLMs all hit the entry in a pack.

So ... slow the PCs? But the PCs were already close enough to the GTEs, so slowing them would make even more problems.

One other thing which was never mentioned much publicly by the management but is certainly true: There were a lot more ALMS than Rolex fans. Slowing the P2s in order to make the DPs look good would have royally annoyed a lot of fans who saw the DPs as dinosaurs, barely able to get out of the way of a proper GT car.

This was the difficult balancing act TUSC had to perform: keeping the DPs (and the teams, and the money they brought) while keeping the P2s (and the fans, sponsors, and money They brought) without p1$$ing off either bunch.

In the end management decided that it would be better to anger the DP teams by forcing them to spend a lot of money ($250,000–$500,00 depending on which rumor) to make the DPs about as fast as a modern prototype, while just slowing the P2s a little via a spec tire designed for a completely different chassis, plus weight and a smaller restrictor.

Problem is, they gave the DPs extra power to compensate for the added downforce of the new aero bits which made them a lot faster than the overweight, over-restricted P2s. Therefore the series cut the added weight and opened up the restrictors to give the P2s—which started out several seconds a lap Faster than the DPs—a chance to keep up with the modified DPs.

That's how we got where we are today.

[MoMedic9019]

Originally Posted by Danske

Compare: http://www.fia.com/sites/default/fil...2%20(2014).pdf
and
http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...20%2314-75.pdf

Outside of the fact that ACO and IMSA spec is different and was in 2013....

2.7mm is a MASSIVE difference.

They've also always had a max boost pressure higher than the ACO.

The problem isn't what they've HAD, it's what they HAVE now. There was no BoP for atmospheric pressure changes for the HPD, why the Ford? Makes no sense. The BoP is still wrong. It's impressive that Pla was able to get the speed out of the OAK he did.

They need to remove some HP from the DP's...it fixes the whole mess instantly, not 100hp, but, 50-75 would do it just fine.

[blankfile]

^what he said would work perfectly, just a little hp taken from the dp's and we have more equallity, the dp's still are faster on the straights but they don't blow away the p2's

[JHamilton]

Originally Posted by Matt

WTR with new title sponsor, Konica Minolta.

Ha, called it! Wow, a twenty year return to a team. That's pretty cool.

They didn't say they were returning to Oldsmobile did they?

[Salamus]

Originally Posted by JHamilton

They didn't say they were returning to Oldsmobile did they?

Nah, too Oldsmobile for their liking.

Sorry, it had to be done.

[deggis]

Stream is on:

http://multimedia.netstorage.imsa.co.../index800.html

VLC: http://ge.tt/4E52dDQ1

[Louie Loper]

the pre-race is...well

[blankfile]

well this is pre pre show

[BudLightJaguar]

So, when will they wave the veeeryy fiiirst full course yellow?

[villeneuve]

Please could somebody tell me where to find the better live timing? I had it saved somewhere, but can't find it anymore.

[Simmi]

Originally Posted by villeneuve

Please could somebody tell me where to find the better live timing? I had it saved somewhere, but can't find it anymore.

This was the link but not working for me

http://www.livescoring.us/scoring.php

[Ginaro Zukovsky]

livescoring.us but it doesn't seem to work anymore

If you want to use scoring.imsa.com but want the old class colours, see: http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....3&postcount=96

[villeneuve]

Thanks guys! Yes, that should have been the one. Not working here either :-(

[Maelochs]

I appreciate your effort Mr. Zukovsky but I can't find any of that stuff.

[Beetle]

Very excited for this 100 minute dash! It should be a good one... if everyone can keep it off the walls.

[MoMedic9019]

Yacaman getting it done...

[Ephaeton]

sheesh, way early green.. would've hoped they'd bunched the field close to the line before they'd launch it

[Birddog07]

Anyone have a stream for us guys in the US? This new Tudor Series loves to alienate the fans who don't have ultra premium cable TV.

[Simmi]

Ahhh Mazda.

[MoMedic9019]

Calvin Fish not acknowledging that Turner left the series..

Also laughed about them STILL lying about how Sebring was a record event. All kinds of open spaces for motorhomes, it was poorly attended.

[MoMedic9019]

Originally Posted by Birddog07

Anyone have a stream for us guys in the US? This new Tudor Series loves to alienate the fans who don't have ultra premium cable TV.

vipboxus.co/motorsports....

google it, you'll have to deal with some popups and ads, but, they go away. Low-def stream, but, it's stable.

[Rodger Davies]

Did Turner announce leaving the series? Genuine question, I missed it if there was an announcement.

[BudLightJaguar]

Oil burner's burning something else than just diesel.

[aneesh99]

Sound keeps getting muted on the international stream when they go on break. Is it that difficult to keep piping in track side microphones? Sigh.......