*Race Thread* ALMS Finale at Laguna Seca Oct 16-19, 08 - Page 5

Stefvh · 18 Oct 2008, 22:52 (Ref:2315517)

again

Dead-Eye · 18 Oct 2008, 22:53 (Ref:2315518)

Reminds me of a GTR2 race I did where the AI didn't work properly and caused massive accidents on every restart, bringing out another safety car every time.

isynge · 18 Oct 2008, 23:20 (Ref:2315523)

51 laps. 90 minutes, and six cautions...

I know the reasons behind all this in the US but really are all of these so necessary?

It often makes for great races - Road America and PLM this year spring to mind, but to my tired European mind, I wish we could have a bit more green flag running.

Heaven alone knows what I'd do without Hindy's passion to keep me awake.

HORNDAWG · 18 Oct 2008, 23:29 (Ref:2315525)

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Originally Posted by isynge

51 laps. 90 minutes, and six cautions...

I know the reasons behind all this in the US but really are all of these so necessary?

It often makes for great races - Road America and PLM this year spring to mind, but to my tired European mind, I wish we could have a bit more green flag running.

Heaven alone knows what I'd do without Hindy's passion to keep me awake.

If you know the reasons then why are you asking if it is necessary? They can't remove the cars from the gravel traps (frakking bikes) while the cars are at speed on the track. I agree that it is ridiculous that there are so many but that is result of the bike traps!!

L.P.

isynge · 18 Oct 2008, 23:50 (Ref:2315534)

Fair Horndawg

It's more an expression of frustration at reality than anger.

That said, when we're so often told about the level to which the LMS has backing etc why not have the facilities to readily clear cars that in Europe would be local yellows rather than always throwing the full course one?

All rhetorical obviously, but at a place like Laguna Seca it remains a fair question.

sceptic · 19 Oct 2008, 00:03 (Ref:2315539)

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Originally Posted by isynge

Fair Horndawg

It's more an expression of frustration at reality than anger.

That said, when we're so often told about the level to which the LMS has backing etc why not have the facilities to readily clear cars that in Europe would be local yellows rather than always throwing the full course one?

All rhetorical obviously, but at a place like Laguna Seca it remains a fair question.

The difference is that in Europe the trackside marshals extract drivers from cars, remove debris from the track and clear vehicles from places of danger.

In America, they just wave flags.

HORNDAWG · 19 Oct 2008, 00:09 (Ref:2315541)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

The difference is that in Europe the trackside marshals extract drivers from cars, remove debris from the track and clear vehicles from places of danger.

In America, they just wave flags.

Horse manure!

L.P.

Aerodynamic · 19 Oct 2008, 00:28 (Ref:2315549)

something is up.......how did Mowlem lose a lap? He was 50 secs back when the last safety car came out so why wasn't he waved by!? He didn't pit or anything so there is no way he should have lost a lap.....someone explain!

chewymonster · 19 Oct 2008, 01:36 (Ref:2315565)

10 minutes left to go

Hugewally · 19 Oct 2008, 03:20 (Ref:2315594)

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Originally Posted by isynge

Anyone have any idea what the "LPLS" note on the live timing on scoring for the ECO Radical means?

The car started the race at the end of the field, but on track - not from pit lane.

chewymonster · 19 Oct 2008, 04:28 (Ref:2315606)

Great 1/2 for Audis. It didn't look like they would be able to do it for quite some time. Possibly a great send off for the R10.

peckadj · 19 Oct 2008, 08:34 (Ref:2315671)

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Originally Posted by Aerodynamic

something is up.......how did Mowlem lose a lap? He was 50 secs back when the last safety car came out so why wasn't he waved by!? He didn't pit or anything so there is no way he should have lost a lap.....someone explain!

well he was 40 sec behind when the saftycar left the track but after that he lost 5-10 sec every lap (he laptimes was 1.15-1.25....) so it did not take many laps before he was lapped. after that, i dont know why he wasn't waved by but it didn't matter cos the last pitstop was 3.30 and his laptimes was sometimes secs slower then the gt1 cars. i hope they can use michelin next year

nobster · 19 Oct 2008, 18:23 (Ref:2316076)

Can anyone tell how Albers did in his first outing ( without any testing ) in the Audi #1?

Bora Lab · 19 Oct 2008, 19:50 (Ref:2316144)

So does anyone know what happened to the Radical. I didnt hear anything about it on NBC but I turned it on 30 minutes into the broadcast.

Hugewally · 19 Oct 2008, 19:54 (Ref:2316148)

Busted a CV joint. Replaced the half shaft and went back out. Don't know why they weren't running at the end, but they were over 100 laps down.

AU N EGL · 19 Oct 2008, 19:58 (Ref:2316152)

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Originally Posted by Hugewally

Busted a CV joint. Replaced the half shaft and went back out. Don't know why they weren't running at the end, but they were over 100 laps down.

Bummer

Hugewally · 19 Oct 2008, 20:04 (Ref:2316158)

Also, in warmup they turned a 1:23.4. Fastest race lap for them was a 1:26.671.

chewymonster · 19 Oct 2008, 20:47 (Ref:2316186)

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Originally Posted by nobster

Can anyone tell how Albers did in his first outing ( without any testing ) in the Audi #1?

Not too good imo. From the looks of it he just couldn't pass the Corsa, and was somewhat slower than the other Audi. But I am talking less than half a second slower.

Aslak Vind · 19 Oct 2008, 21:14 (Ref:2316215)

Still sad that Emanuele didnt get his victory, after his spectacular move.

I am not to sure about the choice of Albers.

broadrun96 · 19 Oct 2008, 23:35 (Ref:2316278)

Makes me wish PLM was the end of the season, just leaves me wanting so much after the most ridiculous coverage of any event ever. Was a great race if you were there I'm sure but I'm left with that empty feeling of no more races for another 5 months?
As for the ECO, sorry to say I dont remember NBC mentioning it, or the Zytek or Creation. Dont remember even seeing the Mazda except for at the start and that was cause it was the only roof in the protos.

Piratedred · 19 Oct 2008, 23:35 (Ref:2316279)

Why is it that in Braselton GA., home of the ALMS and IMSA, we can not see tape delayed races from the American Lemans series. ALMS wants to know why Grand Am has the TV ratings that they do. It's because GA is the only road racing we can see for the whole season.

**joeb** · 19 Oct 2008, 23:56 (Ref:2316287)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Makes me wish PLM was the end of the season, just leaves me wanting so much after the most ridiculous coverage of any event ever. Was a great race if you were there I'm sure but I'm left with that empty feeling of no more races for another 5 months?
As for the ECO, sorry to say I dont remember NBC mentioning it, or the Zytek or Creation. Dont remember even seeing the Mazda except for at the start and that was cause it was the only roof in the protos.

I was out of town yesterday and held out from looking online to see who won, just so I could watch the race. But that was the worst coverage I have ever seen of a sporting event! You would think with showing the race in half the time, you would actually get some editing to make it enjoyable, but no. NBC should be ashamed for their effort.
On the bright side, Sebring is 5 months away!

**joeb** · 19 Oct 2008, 23:59 (Ref:2316290)

Ouch, Farnbacher Loles was dq'd after inspection found ride height too low.

But that means PTG finished on the podium!

Mr Zippy · 20 Oct 2008, 00:03 (Ref:2316293)

Can anyone advise why Dirk Werner has been relegated to last in the final results. He appeared to be third in GT2 in the initial results, which have now been revised and show him at the bottom of the list. Was this car disqualified. Nothing was mentioned in the results press release.

Mr Zippy · 20 Oct 2008, 00:07 (Ref:2316295)

Thanks Joeb, your post came up as I sent mine. This answers my question.

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