*Race Thread* ALMS Finale at Laguna Seca Oct 16-19, 08 - Page 6

dxk1 · 20 Oct 2008, 01:18 (Ref:2316316)

Nice Ferrari 1-2 for you lovers of the prancing horse.

DK

Hugewally · 20 Oct 2008, 02:55 (Ref:2316356)

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Originally Posted by Mr Zippy

Can anyone advise why Dirk Werner has been relegated to last in the final results. He appeared to be third in GT2 in the initial results, which have now been revised and show him at the bottom of the list. Was this car disqualified. Nothing was mentioned in the results press release.

You always look here for the official results (which have the reason too) - http://www.imsaracing.net/

Bramzel · 20 Oct 2008, 08:44 (Ref:2316471)

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Originally Posted by chewymonster

Not too good imo. From the looks of it he just couldn't pass the Corsa, and was somewhat slower than the other Audi. But I am talking less than half a second slower.

Isn't being within half a second of experienced factory-drivers in a car you've hardly driven on a track you've never visited pretty good? Don't get me wrong, I'm no Albers fanboy, but I can't call that 'not too good'.

chewymonster · 20 Oct 2008, 18:11 (Ref:2316860)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Isn't being within half a second of experienced factory-drivers in a car you've hardly driven on a track you've never visited pretty good? Don't get me wrong, I'm no Albers fanboy, but I can't call that 'not too good'.

Maybe he was a bit slower than 1/2 second, but from listening to the race/watching live timing and scoring, it felt like he was the "weaker" than the other Audi driver in the first stint.

HORNDAWG · 20 Oct 2008, 19:26 (Ref:2316920)

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Originally Posted by chewymonster

Maybe he was a bit slower than 1/2 second, but from listening to the race/watching live timing and scoring, it felt like he was the "weaker" than the other Audi driver in the first stint.

Hmm, first time in the car in anger and he kept up and allowed Pirro to get the lead. WTF? Unless he leads the race his whole stint he must be lacking!?

L.P.

porsche45 · 20 Oct 2008, 21:50 (Ref:2317054)

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Originally Posted by Piratedred

Why is it that in Braselton GA., home of the ALMS and IMSA, we can not see tape delayed races from the American Lemans series. ALMS wants to know why Grand Am has the TV ratings that they do. It's because GA is the only road racing we can see for the whole season.

Umm, if you watched NBC Sunday, you would have seen a tape delayed race.
GA does NOT have great TV ratings, check it out. You can also see the whole season of ALMS, Every race is broadcast.
BTW, GA has NA$CoT money behind it... remember? And not ALL of the GA races are live. But then, you're just trolling...

Bramzel · 20 Oct 2008, 22:00 (Ref:2317066)

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Originally Posted by chewymonster

Maybe he was a bit slower than 1/2 second, but from listening to the race/watching live timing and scoring, it felt like he was the "weaker" than the other Audi driver in the first stint.

Of course he was weaker. He made his competition debut in that car on a track he was unfamiliar with

Not exactly a suprise he was slower I'd say.

wills · 20 Oct 2008, 22:35 (Ref:2317092)

MotorsTV broadcasted it on Monday night and they also had the NBC stream(yes I held back from visiting this thread til now!). My word that was one the best racing I've seen mixed with the worst broadcasting as well. I mean why do they cut away every time there was an intense battle going for the overall lead to just cut back to a safety car period?! I don't want to see safety car periods - I want to see those 15-20 laps of Pagenaud all over Pirro which they just skimmed through. SpeedTV did an infinite better job of this event last year.

Bottom line - leave the ALMS to channels which actually value motor racing. Can't wait til next year with flag to flag coverage with RLM. Just peeved that I've gotta wait 5 months til Sebring - thats agony after the racing I've seen today.

cmk · 20 Oct 2008, 23:34 (Ref:2317116)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Of course he was weaker. He made his competition debut in that car on a track he was unfamiliar with

Not exactly a suprise he was slower I'd say.

At the same time, I'm not really sure he was as strong as Fassler on debut. Not bad, by any means, and not necessarily helped by debuting on a track less suited to the R10, but it was scarcely a stunner from a man who came, unlike Marcel, from F1 (which many drivers have likened the downforce experience of ACO P cars to). I think he will be decent, don't get me wrong, but I would rather see him in DTM and Fassler full-time in protos.

Anyone know whether Albers, like Fassler, had tested the R10 at all before Laguna?

airbusA346 · 21 Oct 2008, 08:15 (Ref:2317321)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Anyone know whether Albers, like Fassler, had tested the R10 at all before Laguna?

He did a few laps of Zandvoort I think, this year before the DTM race.

Tom.

jimclark · 21 Oct 2008, 09:51 (Ref:2317401)

Ummmmmm....who was it 25 years ago that said to...ummmm....(who was it?).... in response to ...ummmm...(who was it?)....

Oh yeah....one A.J. Foyt, to Preston Henn at the '83 24 of Daytona, in response to Bob Wolleks rant

(with which I agreed at the time, I was there, btw)....
"I'm a race driver. It's a race car"

Hugewally · 21 Oct 2008, 16:25 (Ref:2317683)

Of course he next asked, 'How many gears does this thing have?" Gawd that was a cold miserable weekend...

Danske · 23 Oct 2008, 01:22 (Ref:2318692)

Ouch. The overnight rating for the NBC broadcast was 0.4.

mpme · 23 Oct 2008, 02:24 (Ref:2318712)

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Originally Posted by Danske

Ouch. The overnight rating for the NBC broadcast was 0.4.

what stood out most was the absolute lack of understanding of the cars, series, drivers, and anything else below the top of the surface by the two hosts. the pit reporters were the only voices of expertise and they weren't used nearly enough.

you could tell the hosts had no other choice but to treat it like a nascar race -- the only thing they know of -- it sure felt like it by the way they called it.

Hugewally · 23 Oct 2008, 03:13 (Ref:2318732)

Except that Bill Weber couldn't be forced to actually put down the mirror and actually look at either the track or the monitors...

porsche45 · 23 Oct 2008, 17:17 (Ref:2319241)

From another chat room:
"Well, I finally had a chance to sit and watch it all last night. Negative: Bill and Wally and everyone else with a mic and a NBC firesuit,(except Calvin, see below). Bad cut-away timing (especially since they edited it). Didn't show much (any?) of the GT race. 4 hours edited to less than 2.
Positive: Didn't show a lot of yellow laps (since they edited it), Calvin, Calvin, Calvin. The ONLY smart thing to come out of Bill's mouth was when he was throwing it to Calvin."

wills · 23 Oct 2008, 17:24 (Ref:2319249)

Just pi$$ed off when the prototypes are really battling and then in the middle of it they cut to the caution period. Any broadcaster who does that should be banned from airing motorsports period(can't believe they still have rights to show a few races next year). It was a bad idea in the first place to air a 4 hour race in under 2 hour slot(especially the finale at Laguna where its hard racing for most of the race).

At least I won't have that problem next year as MotorsTV will be airing each race live flag to flag.

AU N EGL · 23 Oct 2008, 18:02 (Ref:2319269)

Nothing But Cr*p TV was so bad I just worked right through the broadcast and did not miss a thing

all of Nothing But Cr*p sports is the same way. Not just for motor racing

Dutton · 24 Oct 2008, 06:39 (Ref:2319588)

It was one of the most annoying experiences of my TV-motorsport life. Highlight versions of these things are bad enough at the best of times for getting a proper understanding of events, but when that which exists is of a poor standard in itself, well, it just makes everything totally poop.

It is rather a shame, really, given, from what could be made out, the race itself seemed rather decent!

With regards MotorsTV, is there any way of getting that in Canada? There isn't that I know of, but then I haven't exactly thoroughly checked every avenue.

cmk · 24 Oct 2008, 16:11 (Ref:2320068)

On your TV directly? Not that I know of. That said, it is often possible to watch Motors coverage here either live or delayed...

Kai · 24 Oct 2008, 20:37 (Ref:2320236)

Slingbox if you know somebody in Europe...

porsche45 · 24 Oct 2008, 20:55 (Ref:2320248)

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Originally Posted by Danske

Ouch. The overnight rating for the NBC broadcast was 0.4.

I was didn't look at the schedule, since I was there, but with an 11am time slot on the west coast, I'd bet it was up against a couple of football games and NASCoT... tough time slot.

deggis · 29 Oct 2008, 14:23 (Ref:2323542)

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Originally Posted by Danske

Ouch. The overnight rating for the NBC broadcast was 0.4.

Where did you get this? Just for curiosity. I recently searched for ratings. Can't find link right now but I remember rating for Long Beach this year was pretty good (when it was live on NBC), if I have understood correctly the rating system.

Some numbers for Speed broadcasts (not only for ALMS...) would be even more interesting - I really like to know is it worth showing 2nd practice for Trucksman Series in the middle of Sebring broadcast.

Hugewally · 29 Oct 2008, 15:15 (Ref:2323569)

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Originally Posted by deggis

I really like to know is it worth showing 2nd practice for Trucksman Series in the middle of Sebring broadcast.

It is, if it reduces the rating for the Sebring broadcast.

Danske · 29 Oct 2008, 17:38 (Ref:2323674)

Re: ALMS Rating

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Originally Posted by deggis

Where did you get this? Just for curiosity. I recently searched for ratings. Can't find link right now but I remember rating for Long Beach this year was pretty good (when it was live on NBC), if I have understood correctly the rating system.

http://sportsmediawatch.blogspot.com...d-ratings.html
Obviously from that Laguna was up against both the NFL and NASCAR. Yes, Long Beach got a 0.8 this year, which was the highest since 2006 (as 2007 failed to break 0.6). I believe Mid-Ohio and St. Pete both got 0.6 this year.

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