British F3 Rockingham

Richard B · 25 Aug 2011, 21:02 (Ref:2945925)

Since the series is back where it belongs, I thought I'd start the thread for the next British F3 races; Rockingham 3-4 September.

Timetable for F3's is:
Saturday 3rd September
10:35 - 11:05 - Qualifying
14:50 - 15:20 - Race 1
Sunday 4th September
11:00 - 11:20 - Race 2
14:50 - 15:30 - Race 3

strider · 30 Aug 2011, 21:42 (Ref:2948602)

Here's a preview: http://www.formula3.co/news/nasr-on-...pionship-title

The SpeCTator · 31 Aug 2011, 06:32 (Ref:2948705)

Shame it does not use the chicane as per days gone by.

strider · 31 Aug 2011, 22:26 (Ref:2949122)

There are some practice sessions on Friday. I don't know the session times, but here's the link for the timing: http://www.tsl-timing.com/?loc=major...eventid=113515

strider · 2 Sep 2011, 16:15 (Ref:2949955)

Report on today's practice sessions: http://www.formula3.co/news/jaafar-o...itish-f3-tests

karimbo · 4 Sep 2011, 10:31 (Ref:2950644)

Is there a problem with the website? I cannot seem to find it... The page is blank...

strider · 4 Sep 2011, 22:54 (Ref:2950909)

All the links I posted previously work for me.

The meeting is over now. Here's a report on Race 1, which was a maiden win for Hitech's Pietro Fantin after Felipe Nasr was given a controversial drive-through for using parts of the circuit that were not intended to be used. Several others had similar problems, particularly William Buller, who was given a 60 second penalty because he didn't perform the drive through during the race. This was conspicuously stupid, because his amended race time put him in theory a lap behind. If the stewards had given him a 50 second penalty instead the result would been exactly the same, but the race time would have made sense.

Results:

Code:

Pos  Driver                Team         Car              Time/Gap
 1.  Pietro Fantin         Hitech       Dallara-VW        30m37.904s
 2.  Rupert Svendsen-Cook  Carlin       Dallara-VW          + 1.219s
 3.  Jack Harvey           Carlin       Dallara-VW          + 2.412s 
 4.  Jazeman Jaafar        Carlin       Dallara-VW          + 3.240s 
 5.  Carlos Huertas        Carlin       Dallara-VW         + 13.216s
 6.  Felipe Nasr           Carlin       Dallara-VW         + 15.995s  
 7.  Kevin Magnussen       Carlin       Dallara-VW         + 22.660s   
 8.  Scott Pye             Double R     Dallara-Merc       + 23.390s 
 9.  Menasheh Idafar       T-Sport      Dallara-VW         + 25.025s 
10.  Hywel Lloyd           Sino Vision  Dallara-Merc       + 25.938s  
11.  Lucas Foresti         Fortec       Dallara-Merc       + 26.495s 
12.  Bart Hylkema          T-Sport      Dallara-VW         + 30.815s 
13.  Pipo Derani           Double R     Dallara-Merc       + 30.961s  
14.  Adderly Fong          Sino Vision  Dallara-Merc       + 42.438s 
15.  William Buller        Fortec       Dallara-Merc     + 1m22.175s
16.  Luca Orlandi          West-Tec     Dallara-Mugen        + 1 lap  

Retirements:

     Harry Tincknell       Fortec       Dallara-Merc          4 laps     
     Yann Cunha            T-Sport      Dallara-VW            0 laps 
     Fahmi Ilyas           Fortec       Dallara-Merc          0 laps     
                                                              
Not classified:                                        
                                                              
     Kotaro Sakurai        Hitech       Dallara-Mugen         0 laps

strider · 4 Sep 2011, 23:03 (Ref:2950911)

Race 2 on Sunday morning was much better. This is the one with a partly reversed grid. Scott Pye found himself on pole and did very well to convert it into his own maiden F3 race win despite difficult wet conditions.. He did particularly well to hold off champion elect Felipe Nasr. Kevin Magnussen was in the mix, too, until a mistake dropped him back, but he fought his way onto the podium with an enterprising move on the last, but the stewards thought it was just a little too good and added 3 seconds to his race time to put him back to 5th.

Here is the report and the results:

Code:

Pos  Driver                Team/Car                     Time/Gap
 1.  Scott Pye             Double R Dallara-Merc      20m19.368s
 2.  Felipe Nasr           Carlin Dallara-VW           + 10.217s
 3.  William Buller        Fortec Dallara-Merc         + 14.592s
 4.  Jazeman Jaafar        Carlin Dallara-VW           + 15.359s
 5.  Kevin Magnussen       Carlin Dallara-VW           + 15.765s
 6.  Carlos Huertas        Carlin Dallara-VW           + 16.229s
 7.  Menasheh Idafar       T-Sport Dallara-VW          + 17.976s
 8.  Pipo Derani           Double R Dallara-Merc       + 18.406s
 9.  Hywel Lloyd           Sino Vision Dallara-Merc    + 20.220s
10.  Rupert Svendsen-Cook  Carlin Dallara-VW           + 23.827s
11.  Adderly Fong          Sino Vision Dallara-Merc    + 25.638s
12.  Lucas Foresti         Fortec Dallara-Merc         + 28.719s
13.  Harry Tincknell       Fortec Dallara-Merc         + 30.610s
14.  Jack Harvey           Carlin Dallara-VW           + 31.643s
15.  Fahmi Ilyas           Fortec Dallara-Merc         + 43.699s
16.  Yann Cunha            T-Sport Dallara-VW          + 46.835s
17.  Bart Hylkema          T-Sport Dallara-VW          + 59.250s
18.  Kotaro Sakurai        Hitech Dallara-Mugen      + 1m13.910s
19.  Pietro Fantin         Hitech Dallara-VW         + 1m27.725s
20.  Luca Orlandi          West-Tec Dallara-Mugen        + 1 lap

strider · 4 Sep 2011, 23:16 (Ref:2950913)

Race 3 on Sunday afternoon was the feature race and the track was still wet. Kevin Magnussen made a great start for a change from 3rd on the grid to take the lead. Felipe Nasr also jumped pole man Pietro Fantin, but made a small error, which dropped him back to 3rd, but that was enough to secure the 2011 title for delighted young Brazilian.

Kevin held off Fantin to the end despite great pressure on a treacherous track and it was good that he should get another win. Smiles all round, in fact. He is now 2nd in the points standings, but by only 3 points from William Buller, who has come on strongly of late.

Report and results:

Code:

Pos  Driver                Team/Car                      Time/Gap
 1.  Kevin Magnussen       Carlin Dallara-VW           40m10.018s
 2.  Pietro Fantin         Hitech Dallara-VW             + 0.691s
 3.  Felipe Nasr           Carlin Dallara-VW             + 4.579s
 4.  William Buller        Fortec Dallara-Merc           + 8.721s
 5.  Jazeman Jaafar        Carlin Dallara-VW             + 9.271s
 6.  Jack Harvey           Carlin Dallara-VW            + 15.077s
 7.  Scott Pye             Double R Dallara-Merc        + 17.325s
 8.  Harry Tincknell       Fortec Dallara-Merc          + 29.851s
 9.  Bart Hylkema          T-Sport Dallara-VW           + 31.270s
10.  Fahmi Ilyas           Fortec Dallara-Merc          + 33.123s
11.  Carlos Huertas        Carlin Dallara-VW            + 33.826s
12.  Lucas Foresti         Fortec Dallara-Merc          + 47.776s
13.  Kotaro Sakurai        Hitech Dallara-Mugen         + 55.400s
14.  Luca Orlandi          West-Tec Dallara-Mugen         + 1 lap

Retirements:

     Adderly Fong          Sino Vision Dallara-Merc       18 laps
     Yann Cunha            T-Sport Dallara-VW              8 laps
     Pipo Derani           Double R Dallara-Merc           5 laps
     Rupert Svendsen-Cook  Carlin Dallara-VW               5 laps
     Hywel Lloyd           Sino Vision Dallara-Merc        0 laps
     Menasheh Idafar       T-Sport Dallara-VW              0 laps

Richard B · 6 Sep 2011, 19:48 (Ref:2951818)

Some pictures from Rockingham
http://www.formula3pics.com/portfolio218928.html

strider · 6 Sep 2011, 21:19 (Ref:2951869)

Good pictures! #58 makes me smile because Kevin Magnussen, who won the race, looks the least happy. I guess he is thinking of what might have been. He said after the race that he is unlikely to be racing in BF3 next year. It's easy to forget that he did a mixture of German F3 and F3ES last year, so that's two years.

**gomick** · 8 Sep 2011, 11:25 (Ref:2952633)

Awesome effort by Scott Pye to get his debut win - would you say he has been disappointing this year or is this about what you would expect in BF3 from the reigning Formula Ford champ in his rookie year?

Carsandmotorracing · 8 Sep 2011, 11:37 (Ref:2952640)

Yeah it's great to see Scott get his first win, to bad no kiwis are in the series this year.

Flavio Galtieri · 10 Sep 2011, 07:25 (Ref:2953410)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomick

Awesome effort by Scott Pye to get his debut win - would you say he has been disappointing this year or is this about what you would expect in BF3 from the reigning Formula Ford champ in his rookie year?

That's a difficult judgement to make, not having much inside information.

Last year he was with the best team (Jamun) and this year he's not, and so he has to beat the Carlin boys. It must be frustrating when you are used to winning regularly.

It was a great win from pole in the wet though and I imagine this has rescued his season. Having had this learning year I would expect his management to move him to GP3 for 2012 where the car performance differentials between teams are far less and the relative skill of the drivers is easier to judge.

peebee2 · 10 Sep 2011, 07:52 (Ref:2953418)

British F3 is wrong in every way possible for progressing to GP3, so I doubt it.

Flavio Galtieri · 10 Sep 2011, 08:24 (Ref:2953425)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peebee2

British F3 is wrong in every way possible for progressing to GP3, so I doubt it.

Well, at least we both agree GP3 would be progress, so that's a start!

strider · 10 Sep 2011, 18:28 (Ref:2953577)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peebee2

British F3 is wrong in every way possible for progressing to GP3, so I doubt it.

Small correction. F3, be it British or elsewhere else is essential for progressing to GP3 because you need to have learnt all the things F3 teaches you before going to GP3, which is a control formula and doesn't teach a driver much at all, but has the benefit of great exposure through running with F1.

**chunterer** · 10 Sep 2011, 19:37 (Ref:2953605)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flavio Galtieri

Having had this learning year I would expect his management to move him to GP3 for 2012 where the car performance differentials between teams are far less and the relative skill of the drivers is easier to judge.

The natural progression would be a title challenging year 2 in BF3, to capitalise on all he's learnt, not waste it all by going to GP3 Lawnmower lottery surely?

peebee2 · 10 Sep 2011, 20:35 (Ref:2953624)

Quote:

Originally Posted by strider

Small correction. F3, be it British or elsewhere else is essential for progressing to GP3 because you need to have learnt all the things F3 teaches you before going to GP3, which is a control formula and doesn't teach a driver much at all, but has the benefit of great exposure through running with F1.

Not really. I agree with doing F3 first but British F3 is all wrong for going on to GP3.

The combination of the tracks used, climate, style of tyres and engine characteristics are all wrong for going onto GP3 from British F3.

strider · 10 Sep 2011, 22:36 (Ref:2953652)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peebee2

Not really. I agree with doing F3 first but British F3 is all wrong for going on to GP3.

The combination of the tracks used, climate, style of tyres and engine characteristics are all wrong for going onto GP3 from British F3.

You'll have to explain that, please. It's a sweeping generalisation without any facts to support it.

Flavio Galtieri · 11 Sep 2011, 16:27 (Ref:2953991)

Just to prove us all wrong I bet he switches to Euro F3 then 2013 WSR 3.5.

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