Spies

f1truestory · 19 Apr 2002, 00:53 (Ref:264466)

why ferrari always do this, i hate it so much

How often do u see Williams/Mclaren looking at Ferrari's car??
may be there is, but every single time i see these kind of pic is aways the ferrari boys looking

....looking

.....looking

....and looking

.........

Even worst:
http://video.f1gp.ru/02/malaysia/malays_spy.avi

this clip is in Malaysia 2002, which a ferrari aerodynamic mechanic try to look at Mclaren's car.

Lee Janotta · 19 Apr 2002, 00:58 (Ref:264469)

'cause they're damn cheaters out to stuff their tropy cases and wallets at any cost. A perfect match for their #1 driver.

Hasn't changed much since the days of Enzo's politicing.

EERO · 19 Apr 2002, 01:20 (Ref:264471)

It isn't cheating: its part of the game....always has been, always will be. Get over it.

calais · 19 Apr 2002, 01:35 (Ref:264478)

is that rory byrne????
even though i am anti ferrari, i dont see anything wrong with this sort of spying, as long as ferrari dont cry when the favour is returned

Gunslinger · 19 Apr 2002, 01:56 (Ref:264490)

Go here to see Ronny checking out a F2002

http://atlasf1.com/bb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40155

Champ69 · 19 Apr 2002, 02:12 (Ref:264494)

Quote:

Originally posted by Lee Janotta
'cause they're damn cheaters out to stuff their tropy cases and wallets at any cost. A perfect match for their #1 driver.

Hasn't changed much since the days of Enzo's politicing.

Look at gunsligers pic. Does this make Ron a cheater cheater to or do you have double standards.

Ha Ha Ha Ha, you two just got cained

Jay · 19 Apr 2002, 02:19 (Ref:264497)

What Eero said...

It's more of a game played among the teams... An engineer isn't going to gain anymore information from looking over the sholders of crew members at the opponents car than he would watching some TV clips. Still...some people like to do it...

Inigo Montoya · 19 Apr 2002, 03:29 (Ref:264519)

Can't we set a limit to the number of silly 'Ferrari cheating' threads per month?

f1truestory · 19 Apr 2002, 04:23 (Ref:264530)

i am not saying they r cheating,, i know the other does as well.......
i.....just......want.......to........talk....about........this.......

calais · 19 Apr 2002, 04:52 (Ref:264535)

why is someone holding an umbrella when it is not even sunny, nor is it raining??????????

Champ69 · 19 Apr 2002, 04:57 (Ref:264536)

They are attempting to look important. emagine his CV,

and later at the bar.

I work at Williams BMW

What do yu do?

O well umm I, see I am really important and well ummm, look at the time I have got to go goodby!!!!

Mr V · 19 Apr 2002, 08:41 (Ref:264585)

every team gains about as much info as the others by looking at the car on the grid! i thought it really funny when all the other teams crowded around the f2002 at brazil, i got the distinct impression that they did it to "annoy" ferrari more than anything!

Sato san · 19 Apr 2002, 08:44 (Ref:264589)

that really was funny . Ron Dennis and the Rat were giggling like children , as they knew they were getting right up the noses of Ferrari bosses.

f1manoz · 19 Apr 2002, 08:53 (Ref:264595)

Looking at each others designs has been part and parcel of Formula One since it's inception.

But did you know that nearly every team designer used to visit the Minardi garage when Brunner was designer to see if he had any new bits on his cars?

But no-one complained about that, did they!

Glen · 19 Apr 2002, 09:20 (Ref:264620)

F1 True story

Sorry mate - you are totally wrong! They all do it. We have recently seen loads of pictures of every team boss and tech director crowded around the F2002. Have a look at what you've written and think how silly it sounds!

It looks to me like they're tring to sneak a look at the tyre temperature meter reading. Big deal.

I'd have thought that most of this public peeking on thegrid is posturing and wind-ups - they have highly sophisticated devices to analyse the cars on-track, as well as no end of spy pictures that you and I will never see.

Mr V · 19 Apr 2002, 10:10 (Ref:264661)

i once saw martin brundle interview patrick head down the near the back of the grid a couple of years ago ('99) i think, and the williams were nearer the front of the grid! brundle asked what patrick was doing at the "wrong end" of the grid and he said that he often walked down there as he got lots of little ideas that hadn't been thought of by the big boys!

see, it's not always the minnows copying the top teams, sometimes it works in reverse!

Glen · 19 Apr 2002, 10:46 (Ref:264691)

Interestingly it's often been Minardi that the other teams have copied neast ideas from.

calais · 19 Apr 2002, 10:51 (Ref:264705)

and also pinched their drivers!!!!!!!!

Tristan · 19 Apr 2002, 10:55 (Ref:264713)

But then again, Minardi does a lot of "pinching" itself.

I don't understand this topic. What are they meant to do?? NOT look at each other's cars?????

Baby Spice · 19 Apr 2002, 14:22 (Ref:264821)

I think it is very bad, I was there at the time, the Ferrari pitbox was quite far away from Mclaren's one, it is 4 pitboxes and a large stairs to the paddock club away, it is really a wrong end like what Mr. V said. Ordinary tyres spooter is O.K. but definitely no aerodynamist.

Baby Spice · 19 Apr 2002, 14:26 (Ref:264832)

Quote:

Originally posted by Baby Spice
I think it is very bad, I was there at the time, the Ferrari pitbox was quite far away from Mclaren's one, it is 4 pitboxes and a large stairs to the paddock club away, it is really a wrong end like what Mr. V said. Ordinary tyres spooter is O.K. but definitely no aerodynamist.

Quote:

Hey Charlie, where did you get so much money? I won't tell you it is some bribe money....Oppss

twig · 19 Apr 2002, 14:27 (Ref:264835)

dont you think that this whole spy thing is a little pathetic!? there is too much competition these days and it is really annoying that teams are this hostile towards each other.

cant a mechanic look at another car for crist sake! now there will be regulations to where you can look.

(and i support McLaren so dont think im biased towards Ferrari)

Tristan · 19 Apr 2002, 16:09 (Ref:264916)

FERRARI MAN LOOKS AT RIVAL CAR SHOCK!!!!

Schummy · 19 Apr 2002, 17:00 (Ref:264964)

Why cannot they look at McLaren cars? Everybody needs a laugh from time to time

kristof14 · 19 Apr 2002, 17:31 (Ref:264986)

they all do it. remember when mika hakkinen was giving the ferrari a good looking over in parc ferme last season.