WEC Race WEC/ALMS Round 1: The 12 Hours of Sebring - Page 10

C6R Racing Fan · 14 Mar 2012, 17:15 (Ref:3041008)

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Originally Posted by TF110

It's also a brand new car. And this is their first race. They've tested before, but it's still early in the week. They weren't that far off pace either. Only about 2 seconds. I'm sure they can improve.

Agreed. I was surprised and optimistic after seeing them throwing down decent times already. I hope they find some speed to get in the thick of things over the next few days!

TF110 · 14 Mar 2012, 19:09 (Ref:3041073)

They think the top 5 should be a good target, which is good for a new car IMO. They'll be back up to the front soon. No LMP project going on to take away from their GT focus I think will help them out.

peckadj · 14 Mar 2012, 21:18 (Ref:3041142)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

No longer confirmed, replaced by Jean-Denis Deletraz.

Wonder why

FordCosworthPanoz · 14 Mar 2012, 21:39 (Ref:3041150)

Bermuda's ABC affiliate replaces Sebring 12 Hour telecast and puts a School Quiz Challenge in it's timeslot. Great...

ep16 · 14 Mar 2012, 22:23 (Ref:3041177)

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Originally Posted by TF110

They think the top 5 should be a good target, which is good for a new car IMO. They'll be back up to the front soon. No LMP project going on to take away from their GT focus I think will help them out.

Agreed, we've also got to remember Fernandez has never raced a GT car before so he's probably getting a lot of the seat time to get used to the faster traffic and the car by doing fairly long runs and not particuarly looking for out right pace

crooky · 14 Mar 2012, 23:14 (Ref:3041207)

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Originally Posted by MitchZ06

LMP1 = Fastest prototypes racing in the WEC
LMP1 = The top class fighting for overall wins. Hybrids, petrol and diesel power (or a combination of hybrid and petrol or diesel), no limit on pro drivers and generally where the big manufacturers can be found.

As per LMP1 above. ALMS has dropped the 'LM' prefix on all classes.

LMP 2 = Smaller engined prototypes racing in the WEC
LMP2 = Must have production based engines, atleast one gentleman driver and be up to current spec.

P2 = Smaller engined prototypes racing in the ALMS
As per LMP2 above.

PC = Spec ALMS prototype series

GT = GTE PRO and AM mish mash in the ALMS, no restriction on number of pro drivers or car spec.

GTE PRO = Latest and greatest GTE cars, can be current spec and can have all professional driver line-ups.

GTE AM = GTE teams, cars must be atleast a year old in spec (I.E 2012 car to 2011 spec) and must have atleast one gentleman driver.

GTC = Cup spec Porsche 'challenge' class

Hope this helps.

Great help thanks and I'm sure you're post will come in very handy for others as well come Saturday.

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Originally Posted by joeb

Welcome to the forum Crooky, yes the class structure at Sebring is a bit contrived because of the ALMS and WEC are both having races at the same time at the same place. The main thing to remember is the racing will be good, so just ignore the classes and enjoy the race!

Thanks. Well it looks like having nine (!) classes could be a good thing this race after seeing Audi's impressive practice times.

Gingers4Justice · 14 Mar 2012, 23:37 (Ref:3041209)

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Originally Posted by MitchZ06

Well the Dyson Lola is still ~2 seconds slower than the slowest Audi, hooray for equivalency!

Is this sarcasm? Sorry if it is, but I'll take it literally to respond to all those unhappy with the current gap between Audi and the rest.

All protoypes are born equal. They have the same chance. It's just the development which affects their outwright speed - something Audi will always have, petrol or diesel, over the rest. So 2 secs is fair (and not bad given Dyson have a new car!).

You can't keep balancing it till all cars are precisely equal, it's not a BoP category.

The ACO's rules are motor racing socialism, rather than motor racing communism

nasdriv87 · 14 Mar 2012, 23:46 (Ref:3041213)

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Originally Posted by MitchZ06

Was hoping the Aston would be faster so we can get a good Corvette vs Aston battle going again...

that i was expecting to see, and off-course with an AMR win....

i guess i'll have to wait till le mans...

TF110 · 15 Mar 2012, 00:01 (Ref:3041216)

The M-Milk did a 1:49 the other day. Once they get on with their car, the HPD's will be damn fast compared to the Audi's! Watch out for Rebellion as well. With their updated Toyota engine and the new chassis coming into play at Spa, we may see the gap shrink. But then again Audi hasn't run their 'new' car either. I guess we'll have to wait for the factory Toyota's to see how good they are against Audi to make a judgement on how the equivalency goes. But what if the Toyota wasn't a hybrid? There is still a gap between the two. Regardless of how you say it.

crooky · 15 Mar 2012, 00:13 (Ref:3041218)

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Originally Posted by TF110

The M-Milk did a 1:49 the other day. Once they get on with their car, the HPD's will be damn fast compared to the Audi's! Watch out for Rebellion as well. With their updated Toyota engine and the new chassis coming into play at Spa, we may see the gap shrink. But then again Audi hasn't run their 'new' car either. I guess we'll have to wait for the factory Toyota's to see how good they are against Audi to make a judgement on how the equivalency goes. But what if the Toyota wasn't a hybrid? There is still a gap between the two. Regardless of how you say it.

Yeah I'm hoping there's room for improvement in the car as well especially as I just noticed the ancient V12 Aston Martin also run by MM was slightly quicker in last years qualifying.

Dyson Mazda · 15 Mar 2012, 02:19 (Ref:3041242)

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Originally Posted by crooky

Yeah I'm hoping there's room for improvement in the car as well especially as I just noticed the ancient V12 Aston Martin also run by MM was slightly quicker in last years qualifying.

The R15's were about half a second faster last year as well though so it might be a wash.

cbbrit · 15 Mar 2012, 02:23 (Ref:3041244)

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Originally Posted by peckadj

Wonder why

Let's just say there was some mis-communication/misunderstanding between the Czech Republic and the team, as to his sponsorship for the race. I can't say any more.

Dyson Mazda · 15 Mar 2012, 02:29 (Ref:3041247)

what are the chances that one of those Audi's is a hybrid?

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Hmmm, that @audiR18_1 looks different #HybridAlert http://ow.ly/i/vEyO @sebringraceway

http://twitter.com/#!/almsnotes

TF110 · 15 Mar 2012, 04:33 (Ref:3041275)

The new Audi looks 'bulkier' than the one's running @Sebring. Even though they're basically the same. Perhaps the white paint or the angle.

gwyllion · 15 Mar 2012, 07:47 (Ref:3041326)

The confusing double class situation (WEC vs ALMS) has some undesirable consequences. In http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTVvak52eSI Jeff Braun from Level 5 explains that they will not take any risk to beat the WEC LMP2 cars because they are mainly interested in the ALMS points.

andy_b · 15 Mar 2012, 08:00 (Ref:3041328)

Version 2 of the Spotter Guide now online with livery updates and a few driver changes. By request, I've also released a PDF version which should make it easier for viewing on the iPad etc (sorry doesnt quite fit the screen)

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Originally Posted by andy_b

Sebring Spotter Guide is live showing all 64 entries.

Any mistakes/changes, please email or PM me rather than filling this thread up

You can download the guide form here. http://www.spotterguides.com/2012-almswec/

gwyllion · 15 Mar 2012, 09:09 (Ref:3041349)

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Originally Posted by Dyson Mazda

what are the chances that one of those Audi's is a hybrid?

It is there for post-Sebring testing. See http://www.lemans.org/en/races/fia-w...ture_6458.html

NightStalk3r · 15 Mar 2012, 10:44 (Ref:3041398)

Some drivers shouldn't have a racing license, it seems JWA has a nack of picking them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZQ3_FTpRmU

arakis · 15 Mar 2012, 11:43 (Ref:3041444)

Someone need a new pair of undies.

airbusA346 · 15 Mar 2012, 12:14 (Ref:3041467)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Some drivers shouldn't have a racing license, it seems JWA has a nack of picking them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZQ3_FTpRmU

What day was that video from? Monday or Tuesday?

Tom.

**skycafe** · 15 Mar 2012, 12:24 (Ref:3041474)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

It is there for post-Sebring testing. See http://www.lemans.org/en/races/fia-w...ture_6458.html

Yes, and the photo was done with the first winner, the Cunningham, as a promo. No, the Cunningham is not going to be a last minute entry in the race.....

NightStalk3r · 15 Mar 2012, 12:27 (Ref:3041476)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

What day was that video from? Monday or Tuesday?

Tom.

2nd session on Tuesday.

RoeDent · 15 Mar 2012, 12:38 (Ref:3041486)

Hello endurance fans! Good to be back again in the run-up to another test of man, fan

and machine!

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what is the view around here on the fact that each class only has 15 minutes of qualifying?

Articus · 15 Mar 2012, 12:39 (Ref:3041487)

Does anyone know if the BMW's are using there special "runflat" tires that gave them so much trouble in last years event?

arakis · 15 Mar 2012, 12:47 (Ref:3041490)

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Originally Posted by RoeDent

Hello endurance fans! Good to be back again in the run-up to another test of man, fan

and machine!

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what is the view around here on the fact that each class only has 15 minutes of qualifying?

better then having them all go together for an hour, but worse then having each class have an hour to themselves.

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