24h Nürburgring 2008 - Page 4

Speed-King · 12 May 2008, 11:12 (Ref:2199957)

And there might be more trouble coming for Alzen, as the ADAC has released a competitor-bulletin for the 24hrs, that says that additional scoops (when compared to the road car) on the cars are not allowed. Unfortunately the Alzen turbo has two scoops on the rear fenders.

I wouldn't be overly surprised, if Weissach took a hand in that...

minimangler · 12 May 2008, 13:06 (Ref:2200093)

Yes, for sure, I think the Alzen car is an embarassment right now, but I think chaning rules just pre-24 hours is ridiculous!!!

RS500 · 12 May 2008, 13:56 (Ref:2200150)

I'm guessing there will be live timing and stream available? and for people outside europe. From memory last year the stream (either this or le mans) wasn't available for us to watch down here

Dead-Eye · 12 May 2008, 23:54 (Ref:2200605)

By the way, I'm not sure we'll see the expected two Lambos at the 24h. The new blue one crashed heavily at Breidscheid or Ex-Mühle on saturday. The picture I saw didn't look that bad, but apparently it was said that basically everything is broken. At least the orange one (driven by Dirk Adorf and the universally loved Hermann Tilke) didn't participate in the VLN race and is therefore still in one piece.

**skycafe** · 13 May 2008, 02:34 (Ref:2200646)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

And there might be more trouble coming for Alzen, as the ADAC has released a competitor-bulletin for the 24hrs, that says that additional scoops (when compared to the road car) on the cars are not allowed. Unfortunately the Alzen turbo has two scoops on the rear fenders.

I wouldn't be overly surprised, if Weissach took a hand in that...

If this is the case, I am not liking Porsche, and I love Porsche. But, if this is what to expect from Porsche these days....

All due to the Alzen's, they busy themselves with interesting projects, funding out of their own pockets I believe.

nasdriv87 · 13 May 2008, 04:04 (Ref:2200667)

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Originally Posted by RS500

I'm guessing there will be live timing and stream available? and for people outside europe. From memory last year the stream (either this or le mans) wasn't available for us to watch down here

well, so i was luckly here at brazil last year, cuz both of them worked fine!!!

RS500 · 13 May 2008, 07:36 (Ref:2200759)

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Originally Posted by nasdriv87

well, so i was luckly here at brazil last year, cuz both of them worked fine!!!

hmmm could have been trying a bad link then - i will have to double check this year

vorsprung · 14 May 2008, 15:35 (Ref:2202257)

Dumas and Bernhard will do demonstration laps in RS Spyders (Penske liveried one and Horag car) prior to race.

endurance-info

Satorian · 15 May 2008, 21:28 (Ref:2203484)

According to ring1.de (text in German) Schubert will field a 320d with Jörg Müller and Augusto Farfus at the wheel.

That's quite interesting for several reasons: For one, is this the a WTCC spec 320d that could turn up in WTCC? And, looking at the time it takes to get around the track, will Farfus manage more than three laps without crashing? It's going to be interesting to see him on a narrow track with lots of cars around and an endurance setting. If he manages to adapt and blunt his edge enough to make the distance, he could become one hell of a GT endurance pilot.

courageous · 15 May 2008, 22:17 (Ref:2203520)

Farfus is like Massa with a roof over his head - not a good idea to put him on the Nordschleife or in any race lasting longer than 1/2 an hour.

Satorian · 15 May 2008, 23:19 (Ref:2203565)

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Originally Posted by courageous

Farfus is like Massa with a roof over his head - not a good idea to put him on the Nordschleife or in any race lasting longer than 1/2 an hour.

That's the common wisdom on Farfus. It's going to be interesting whether it holds up though. Perhaps we'll all be pleasantly surprised. Guy's young, still can learn a trick or two.

minimangler · 15 May 2008, 23:44 (Ref:2203576)

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Originally Posted by courageous

Farfus is like Massa with a roof over his head - not a good idea to put him on the Nordschleife or in any race lasting longer than 1/2 an hour.

Try "homing missile" for nearest opponent.

Or Brazilian grenade.

It's not whether he crashes, it's how many opponents he can wipe out in the ensuing smash. It's just like a Burnout crash party for him.
I bet he's relishing a 250 car field

werner · 16 May 2008, 09:40 (Ref:2203818)

It helps that Tarquini isn't in the race. Those 2 seem to have a sort of magnetic field between them.

SteveT · 17 May 2008, 03:36 (Ref:2204501)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

Try "homing missile" for nearest opponent.

Or Brazilian grenade.

It's not whether he crashes, it's how many opponents he can wipe out in the ensuing smash. It's just like a Burnout crash party for him.
I bet he's relishing a 250 car field

He certainly WAS a Brazilian Grenade (that's a good one), but I think he's improved since he's joined BMW. Having said that, I don't know if he's so suited to a long distance race. He's good a sprint/short distance races, but I don't know about 24 Hour races. it will be interesting to watch.

nasdriv87 · 18 May 2008, 16:32 (Ref:2205634)

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Originally Posted by SteveT

He certainly WAS a Brazilian Grenade (that's a good one), but I think he's improved since he's joined BMW. Having said that, I don't know if he's so suited to a long distance race. He's good a sprint/short distance races, but I don't know about 24 Hour races. it will be interesting to watch.

well, i hope he at least finishes the 24hs!!!

and here the news that we are waiting for http://adac.24h-rennen.de/news/artik...-internet.html

we are going to have a live streaming for 24hs from nurburgring again!!! german link!!!

AX lover · 18 May 2008, 16:44 (Ref:2205647)

Seen the pictures of the Audi R8 that will also race in the 24h?
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/17/a...urgring-24-hrs

nasdriv87 · 18 May 2008, 16:50 (Ref:2205655)

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Originally Posted by AX lover

Seen the pictures of the Audi R8 that will also race in the 24h?
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/17/a...urgring-24-hrs

man, this car and its crew suffered a lot to race at dubai 24hs race this year on its debut, i hope he had a good luck this time!!!

AX lover · 18 May 2008, 17:02 (Ref:2205669)

@nasdrive87, the R8 that raced at Dubai was the Creventic CR-8 and that car was developed by a Dutch company. This blue R8 is developed by the German Michael Düchting. The Creventic CR-8 also has the original 4.2 V8 with 430 hp. And the R8 that will be racing at the Nurburgring will have a 4 liter engine producing 530 hp.

Creventic CR-8
http://cr-8.com/default.asp

24h-Project 2008: Blue-Tec
http://germancarscene.com/2008/05/16...i-r8-surfaces/
http://www.sportauto-online.de/sport...353_14469.hbs/

minimangler · 18 May 2008, 19:21 (Ref:2205767)

It is indeed different, and sexier.

spookyt_de · 18 May 2008, 19:31 (Ref:2205778)

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Originally Posted by AX lover

This blue R8 is developed by the German Michael Düchting. The Creventic CR-8 also has the original 4.2 V8 with 430 hp. And the R8 that will be racing at the Nurburgring will have a 4 liter engine producing 530 hp.

@AX lover: As far as I know the car is brand new and did not race in any VLN race, didn't it?
It is a project of the german magazine "Sport-Auto" which covers the development: http://www.sportauto-online.de/sport...2353_14469.hbs (german link)

Futher infos from last weeks:

The Gumpert Apollo #11 uses a 3.3L V8 BiTurbo, 520hp supported by a 136hp electric engine. For the electic engine a Lithium-Ion battery by GAIA is used, providing 8,7kWh, weighting additional 190 kg!!
The project was initiated by H.H.Frenzen who wanted to race a car using hybrid technology... see here: http://www.hybrid-racing.ch/media/pd...E%202-2008.pdf (german also)
The Aston Martin #6 is a official manufactur entry http://www.astonmartinracing.com/new...2-6418e4b318ea

spookyt_de · 18 May 2008, 19:49 (Ref:2205791)

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Originally Posted by spookyt_de

The Gumpert Apollo #11 uses a 3.3L V8 BiTurbo, 520hp supported by a 136hp electric engine. For the electic engine a Lithium-Ion battery by GAIA is used, providing 8,7kWh, weighting additional 190 kg!!
The project was initiated by H.H.Frenzen who wanted to race a car using hybrid technology

H.H.Frenzen tested the Apollo today, pictures here: http://www.eiskurve.de/motorsport/pi...Gumpert_Apollo

dj4monie · 19 May 2008, 08:42 (Ref:2206240)

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Originally Posted by nasdriv87

well, i hope he at least finishes the 24hs!!!

and here the news that we are waiting for http://adac.24h-rennen.de/news/artik...-internet.html

we are going to have a live streaming for 24hs from nurburgring again!!! german link!!!

YES!

If your not at home you can get Real Audio to record it.... I most likely won't be and will need to start it as there is not scheduler like in Media Center/PVR type software, but Real Audio will record any streamed feed with a click of the mouse, no joke and record the entire thing as long as you don't drop your net connection or your PC doesn't go into Standby 3 (basically OFF).

This pared with Radio Le Mans' audio feed will be just like when I watched Le Mans from my hostel in Germany via the net and listened to Hindy....

Spyderman · 19 May 2008, 17:33 (Ref:2206639)

I'm sorry guys, but does anyone know if there will be live timing?

Satorian · 19 May 2008, 20:29 (Ref:2206766)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

I'm sorry guys, but does anyone know if there will be live timing?

Yes, there will be live timing on the main site.

**skycafe** · 20 May 2008, 01:12 (Ref:2206948)

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Originally Posted by spookyt_de

H.H.Frenzen tested the Apollo today, pictures here: http://www.eiskurve.de/motorsport/pi...Gumpert_Apollo

Wow, that is an interesting thing!

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