Team US F1 - Page 28

**ghinzani** · 20 Feb 2010, 10:00 (Ref:2636857)

As I said in the Campos thread, maybe Hurley will look to recouphis investment by investing in Stefan and making US F1 the supplier for the 2011 Stefan/Chad F1 chassis when they have to build their own.

GolddustMini · 20 Feb 2010, 10:11 (Ref:2636867)

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Originally Posted by DanShenise

(keep thinking of the chubby bloke from Lost)

I think Hurley decided to leave when he saw that the wind tunnel numbers were bad......

GolddustMini · 20 Feb 2010, 11:53 (Ref:2636960)

Ken anderson is whinging about FIA fines for not showing up to races which they agreed to show up to (i.e bahrain to adu dhabi inclusive!) apparently fines would be unfair.... thems the rules chap!

fourWheelDrift · 20 Feb 2010, 12:03 (Ref:2636963)

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Originally Posted by GolddustMini

Ken anderson is whinging about FIA fines for not showing up to races which they agreed to show up to (i.e bahrain to adu dhabi inclusive!) apparently fines would be unfair.... thems the rules chap!

While what you say is correct there is another side to the debate. If the FIA genuinely want the team to compete what is the point in imposing fines which would destroy the team and prevent them from ever competing.

**GTRMagic** · 20 Feb 2010, 12:08 (Ref:2636966)

Autosport carries it too

Do those blokes @ tailenders know something we dont? There is a sketch in there about USF1, or more accurately Mr Windsor, changing the first race from Bahrain to Barcelona...

Creepy

p-matt · 20 Feb 2010, 12:37 (Ref:2636986)

What I don't understand is that if USF1 were always so far behind with their car development why didn't they get the Toyota chassis? Unlike Stefan, USF1 actually have an entry in the championship.

courageous · 20 Feb 2010, 12:41 (Ref:2636990)

Because they didn't have any money, they have never had any money, they will never have any money - it was all hot air.

They hoped that sponsors would flock towards them quickly enough for them to catch up and get a car ready, but they didn't.

luke · 20 Feb 2010, 13:17 (Ref:2637010)

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Originally Posted by GolddustMini

I think Hurley decided to leave when he saw that the wind tunnel numbers were bad......

But USF1 only had CFD and don't even have a wind tunnel LOL.

CarolK · 20 Feb 2010, 13:24 (Ref:2637019)

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Originally Posted by courageous

Because they didn't have any money, they have never had any money, they will never have any money - it was all hot air.

They hoped that sponsors would flock towards them quickly enough for them to catch up and get a car ready, but they didn't.

The interview Anderson has done is disguisting and an embarassment to those of us in the us who actually know and care about F1. They've had ample time (even KA & PW said they've been working on this for years)to get their act together and typical bs after bs, etc. and now this article. Do they not know how to read - You CAN'T MISS ANY of the races - rules are rules and apply to any of the game players, just who do they think they are that they can bend those rules. I hope the other teams vote them down and Stefan gets the spot. Only a true idiot would give the bs'ers more money, especially with the promise (reoccuring promises that never follow thru) they'd be at Barcelona - not a snowball's chance in **** of that happening.

GO STEFAN

jab · 20 Feb 2010, 13:27 (Ref:2637025)

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Originally Posted by luke

But USF1 only had CFD and don't even have a wind tunnel LOL.

Uh, yes they do. They have one of the most advanced windtunnels in the world

luke · 20 Feb 2010, 13:45 (Ref:2637041)

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Originally Posted by jab

Uh, yes they do. They have one of the most advanced windtunnels in the world

Good for you.

GolddustMini · 20 Feb 2010, 14:11 (Ref:2637061)

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Originally Posted by luke

But USF1 only had CFD and don't even have a wind tunnel LOL.

they used windsheer did they not, virgin only used CFD in their design. LOL

ASCII Man · 20 Feb 2010, 14:26 (Ref:2637080)

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Originally Posted by luke

Good for you.

/facepalm

Chatters · 20 Feb 2010, 15:02 (Ref:2637105)

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Originally Posted by jab

Uh, yes they do. They have one of the most advanced windtunnels in the world

I heard it makes fantastically quick...

...Toasters

92scotland · 20 Feb 2010, 15:06 (Ref:2637107)

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Originally Posted by CarolK

The interview Anderson has done is disguisting and an embarassment to those of us in the us who actually know and care about F1. They've had ample time (even KA & PW said they've been working on this for years)to get their act together and typical bs after bs, etc. and now this article. Do they not know how to read - You CAN'T MISS ANY of the races - rules are rules and apply to any of the game players, just who do they think they are that they can bend those rules. I hope the other teams vote them down and Stefan gets the spot. Only a true idiot would give the bs'ers more money, especially with the promise (reoccuring promises that never follow thru) they'd be at Barcelona - not a snowball's chance in **** of that happening.

GO STEFAN

I must say very well said... Stefan have their car fired up and ready for action so just let them in, they would do a far better job than any of the new teams imo.

**chunterer** · 20 Feb 2010, 15:38 (Ref:2637121)

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Originally Posted by 92scotland

I must say very well said... Stefan have their car fired up and ready for action so just let them in, they would do a far better job than any of the new teams imo.

Yes, but the sad thing is the Stefan isn't a 'new team' it's effectively another Brawn, I.E. exisiting equipment under new management, which kind of undermines the whole essence of the new teams idea.

It would be even more embarrassing if they turned up and weren't better than the new teams.

Lotus and Simtek have done bloody well to actually get out there in the time and resources they've had available, Campos and US haven't been as lucky unfortunately, but had either of them been given the opportunity to pcik up an existing teams's equipment then they wouldn't have half the problems they have now.

Hubble · 20 Feb 2010, 16:31 (Ref:2637146)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Yes, but the sad thing is the Stefan isn't a 'new team' it's effectively another Brawn, I.E. exisiting equipment under new management, which kind of undermines the whole essence of the new teams idea.

It would be even more embarrassing if they turned up and weren't better than the new teams.

Lotus and Simtek have done bloody well to actually get out there in the time and resources they've had available, Campos and US haven't been as lucky unfortunately, but had either of them been given the opportunity to pcik up an existing teams's equipment then they wouldn't have half the problems they have now.

Simtek? I think you mean Virgin......

JamesRamone · 20 Feb 2010, 16:42 (Ref:2637153)

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Originally Posted by Hubble

Simtek? I think you mean Virgin......

I think he's referring to the Wirth link

Leighton Irwin · 20 Feb 2010, 16:48 (Ref:2637156)

If the FIA Gives them the right to miss 4 races the teams that busted their humps to be ready will be upset. Further then Campos could ask for the same exemption and it would be hard to refuse them.
From what we have seen it would be another 6 or so weeks of will they or won't they. Likely they still will not be ready if the supposed inside stories are correct. They likely are as 'Composite Ken' has been right so far.
If the FIA turn them down then Windbag and Anderson have their scapegoat, the nasty ol FIA.

Alwaysfirst · 20 Feb 2010, 17:28 (Ref:2637172)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Yes, but the sad thing is the Stefan isn't a 'new team' it's effectively another Brawn, I.E. exisiting equipment under new management, which kind of undermines the whole essence of the new teams idea.

It would be even more embarrassing if they turned up and weren't better than the new teams.

Lotus and Simtek have done bloody well to actually get out there in the time and resources they've had available, Campos and US haven't been as lucky unfortunately, but had either of them been given the opportunity to pcik up an existing teams's equipment then they wouldn't have half the problems they have now.

They had as much chance to buy the equipment as Stefan did, if not more as both of them actually had confirmed entries...so what's their excuse. They chose not to purchase equipment that may have got them on the grid. Their fault, not Stefan's for bothering to make the effort...

I do still just wish that we were talking about Lola & Prodrive rather than Campos & USF1...

P38 in workshop · 20 Feb 2010, 17:29 (Ref:2637174)

If the FIA can find a way to permit Stefan to fill the vacant slot until USF1 are ready,it would give the track owners the numbers they were promised.If after four races,there is no sign of a car from USF1 the entry could be switched.Outside the rules perhaps,but it would give Stephan a chance to show their ability to compete and keep the grid full.The years of planning that are alleged to have been devoted to the USF1 project would appear not to have had any time allocated to contingency planning.

Hubble · 20 Feb 2010, 17:30 (Ref:2637175)

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Originally Posted by JamesRamone

I think he's referring to the Wirth link

Yeah, I thought that.....but still.....the team is called Virgin, not Simtek

Amar7605 · 20 Feb 2010, 17:32 (Ref:2637176)

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Originally Posted by GolddustMini

I think Hurley decided to leave when he saw that the wind tunnel numbers were bad......

Sodemo · 20 Feb 2010, 18:12 (Ref:2637197)

Not exactly related to the thread, (but I didn't want to start another) does anyone know in say the last 15 or so years what the lowest entry list has been for an F1 race?

I seem to recall back in either 1996 or maybe 1997 there was a race with only 17 entrants?

jab · 20 Feb 2010, 18:18 (Ref:2637199)

Not sure, depends on what you class as an entrant. I don't think there has been a race for a long time with less than 20 entrants but there have been a few with less than 20 starters - USA 2005, France 2002, Hungary and Japan last year

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