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Old 18 Jul 2010, 14:31 (Ref:2728454)   #1
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Ecclestone says Monaco could be dropped
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Old 18 Jul 2010, 14:58 (Ref:2728460)   #2
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I think this is just Ecclestone dropping a gentle hint to the authorities in Monaco.

One thing you shouldn't do with Ecclestone is ignore what he says.
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Old 18 Jul 2010, 15:13 (Ref:2728462)   #3
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Who? Bernie, or Chris Sylt?
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Old 18 Jul 2010, 15:15 (Ref:2728464)   #4
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It's not surprising, Bernie lost the plot a while ago. Probably time CVC Capital Partners replaced him. The next round of Concorde Agreement negotiations could be interesting - but in the sense of the Chinese proverb.
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Old 18 Jul 2010, 15:20 (Ref:2728465)   #5
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I wouldn't mind if Ecclestone was dropped, tbh.
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Old 18 Jul 2010, 15:29 (Ref:2728473)   #6
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Well, the man knows it all, "they don't pay enough", nuff said...
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Old 18 Jul 2010, 15:32 (Ref:2728475)   #7
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Seriously, take what Bernie says with a truckload of salt. He says what he says to create a reaction, in this case, to keep the Monaco organisers on their toes.

F1 without Monaco would be like the British without their tea.
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Old 18 Jul 2010, 15:38 (Ref:2728484)   #8
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Monaco doesn't have to cough up to The Midget - and quite rightly so. The Monaco GP is so special an event it would be in F1's interest to pay to race there.
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The point is WHO is F1 ?
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It's not surprising, Bernie lost the plot a while ago. Probably time CVC Capital Partners replaced him.
Why would they? He's doing EXACTLY what they want him to do as their employee, he's maximising their profits; something which he does very well. CVC are way more greedy then Bernie ever was when he owned the show. Monaco not paying only became an issue when CVC came on the scene...

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The point is WHO is F1 ?
I was referring to the sport in general's interest. Your point is valid though, ideally that could be answered simply as "FOTA", but sadly there's the midget and CVC Capital Partners involved.

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Why would they? He's doing EXACTLY what they want him to do as their employee, he's maximising their profits; something which he does very well. CVC are way more greedy then Bernie ever was when he owned the show. Monaco not paying only became an issue when CVC came on the scene...

Don't blame the money, blame the organ grinder.
The issue is Ecclestone's habit of using the media for these things, he comes up with something moronic to say every few weeks. I don't know how big a leash CVC have put on Bernie, but this will get harmful. It's a shame there wasn't a FOTA back in 2006 to buy FOM instead of CVC. Ideally both Bernie and CVC would be dropped - off a cliff.
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The point is WHO is F1 ?
Or WHAT or even WHY.
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I was referring to the sport in general's interest. Your point is valid though, ideally that could be answered simply as "FOTA", but sadly there's the midget and CVC Capital Partners involved.
The 'FIA Formula One World Championship' belongs to the FIA.

Martin Whitmarsh is already struggling to keep FOTA together.

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It's a shame there wasn't a FOTA back in 2006 to buy FOM instead of CVC. Ideally both Bernie and CVC would be dropped - off a cliff.
I'm not so sure that FOTA would have taken on the risk of buying something that it had full responsibilty for.

We are still awaiting some decent regulations. Don't give them the added responsibility of having to make 100% sure that they work.
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The best thing Bernie has said for a long time, Monaco is a farce!
And please don't harp on at me about tradition!
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Old 18 Jul 2010, 18:06 (Ref:2728593)   #16
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Who needs Monaco? When you can race around the docks of Valencia...
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Who needs Monaco? When you can race around the docks of Valencia...
Ironically, that was supposedly part of the original thinking behind Bernie/CVC giving Valencia (and to a lesser extent, Singapore) a GP, as it was supposed to put pressure on Monaco to start paying. As has become apparent though, the industrial setting of Valencia hasn't exactly challenged the rather more glamorous Monaco GP.
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Monaco is F1... Goats, sheep, stray dogs and camels are not Bernie...

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Why must he make his negotiations public? Its getting very boring now
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The best thing Bernie has said for a long time, Monaco is a farce!
And please don't harp on at me about tradition!
Do you have the slightest clue about the history of F1?
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You are 25 years old... Go and stand in the corner...
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Two, no three things here.
1. Bernie is posturing
2. Bernie is flexing his muscles.... (the only two things worth having are the two names, F1 and Ferrari......
3. Bernie is revealing the colours of his innermost being (paper green and gold)
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Do you have the slightest clue about the history of F1?
It's more than just the history of Formula One. It's about the history of motor racing. The Monaco GP is more than twenty years older than Formula One itself. We're not just talking Juan Manuel Fangio, we're talking William Grover-Williams, Rudi Caracciola, Tazio Nuvolari, Louis Chiron ...

Ideally anyone - and by anyone I mean Bernie Ecclestone or any other employee of CVC Capital Partners - who considers removing Monaco from the calendar would be placed in a Groundhog Day style timeloop while watching Two Girls One Cup (if you haven't seen it, you don't want to). Sadly that's a physical impracticality.
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Two, no three things here.
1. Bernie is posturing
2. Bernie is flexing his muscles.... (the only two things worth having are the two names, F1 and Ferrari......
3. Bernie is revealing the colours of his innermost being (paper green and gold)

Bernie flexing what now?..Muscles, I am not so sure about that..
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I dunno, this makes perfect sense to me...

Given the tight and hilly nature of the Monaco circuit, I don't see any obvious place you could use Bernie's shortcut idea on the current layout...
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