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Old 23 Jul 2010, 20:29 (Ref:2731425)   #26
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Old 23 Jul 2010, 22:26 (Ref:2731501)   #27
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But yeah, it only seems like a few years ago that they were racing on the old layout. I think just because the old layout through the forest was so iconic. And although I miss those long runs through the trees, we probably do the new layout a disservice as it has actually produced some pretty good racing over the years.
I don't particularly like the track as it now, but that's because I didn't think there was anything wrong with it before our old friend Mr Tilke got involved. But I am really looking forward to this race - not only does it look like we'll get a wet qualifying, which always puts some of the faster drivers out of position, if the race is dry then the tyres could produce some really interesting racing.
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 01:49 (Ref:2731560)   #28
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Looks like I might miss the best qually shot for Sutil. Any justin.tv links would be great for a SPEEDTV-less house for tomorrow morning.
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 10:15 (Ref:2731623)   #29
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Very much looking like a Red Bull and Ferrari front rows lock-out today.

Hope Sutil doesn't get put back 5 places

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Old 24 Jul 2010, 11:56 (Ref:2731650)   #30
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Let's see what McLaren can do... don't discount them.
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 12:51 (Ref:2731664)   #31
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Kobayashi versus Schumacher on the first lap - now THAT will be interesting.
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 13:10 (Ref:2731672)   #32
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That was a great pole from Vettel. Great.
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 13:14 (Ref:2731674)   #33
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Good lap from Vettel. The Red Bull and Ferrari are absolutely mighty around here. Though the McLarens improve with race fuel, so looking forward to a tight race tomorrow!
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 13:15 (Ref:2731675)   #34
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Well, Vettel and Alonso are mighty.
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Vettel does it again. Nice to see Masa up there, having been in the doldrums, hope he can turn that into a result.
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 13:33 (Ref:2731681)   #37
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Nice to see the Ferrari's up there to hopefully take some points off the McLaren's.
Alonso and Vettel to have some argey bargey in the first corner and Webber to sneak through, take the lead and the win.
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 15:31 (Ref:2731711)   #38
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More likely that they will run away and hide. The front row owns their team mates
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 16:17 (Ref:2731724)   #39
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What did Ferrari do to find all that speed this weekend? It seems to me they've made quite a leap forward.
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 17:52 (Ref:2731757)   #40
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Glock has been given a ten place grid drop for two things, wrong 7th gear and a change of gearbox
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 19:38 (Ref:2731862)   #41
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Nice to see the Ferrari's up there to hopefully take some points off the McLaren's.
Alonso and Vettel to have some argey bargey in the first corner and Webber to sneak through, take the lead and the win.
Go Webber!!
Im thinking Lewis and Mark into T1, both on the dirty side of the track could get interesting.....

Now we have to wait and see how the tyre games pan out..... with the two extremes of super-soft and hard the compound selection deliberately set to mix things up a bit. A potential repeat of Canada. Im not so sure they would have much data on relative tyre performance and longevity, given the wet track for much of the time.
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Old 24 Jul 2010, 19:41 (Ref:2731864)   #42
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What did Ferrari do to find all that speed this weekend? It seems to me they've made quite a leap forward.
Haven't they got their 'afterburner technology' that ensures continuity of airflow from exhaust when off throttle, thus not losing the downforce as they lift off in the corner.
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Glock has been given a ten place grid drop for two things, wrong 7th gear and a change of gearbox
It looks like Sutil, rather than Glock, who has been given a grid penalty.....
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What did Ferrari do to find all that speed this weekend? It seems to me they've made quite a leap forward.
Well they've had good pace since Valencia, they've just wasted it. My gut tells me one driver from each of the top three teams on the podium tomorrow, although I wouldn't dream of guessing at the order!
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Guys, what depressed me was the helicopter shot going down the old track...the grass and bush that is growing in place of where it is, but you can still see where the track was ,the chicanes, so depressing....

But as Brundle said, the old track was not about skill, it was just about low downforce performance and powerful engines, and you spent hte entire race hoping nothing broke cos if it did, you would be sore the next day...
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Guys, what depressed me was the helicopter shot going down the old track...the grass and bush that is growing in place of where it is, but you can still see where the track was ,the chicanes, so depressing....

But as Brundle said, the old track was not about skill, it was just about low downforce performance and powerful engines, and you spent hte entire race hoping nothing broke cos if it did, you would be sore the next day...
I disagree with Brundle. Sure it used to be an engine circuit, but what happened to variety? Now Hockenheim is just like any other modern track. At least the old track was something different and a unique challenge.
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The new track is complete rubbish...
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It was interesting what Brundle said. I thought about the variety thing too. You wouldn't want every circuit to have been like the old one, but a couple a year (with Monza) is fun. He was saying it in an entertaining way, especially with the "I might have felt differently...".

However I don't think the current track is like every other track. And I don't think it is rubbish. It does tend to have some good racing. Remember Kimi and Juan Pablo?
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It was interesting what Brundle said. I thought about the variety thing too. You wouldn't want every circuit to have been like the old one, but a couple a year (with Monza) is fun. He was saying it in an entertaining way, especially with the "I might have felt differently...".

However I don't think the current track is like every other track. And I don't think it is rubbish. It does tend to have some good racing. Remember Kimi and Juan Pablo?
It's quite boring though Adam...
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To look at, yes. But at the end of the day, a circuit exists to facilitate racing. And this track tends to produce some pretty good racing. I miss the scenery of the old layout, but like the wheel-to-wheel battles at the new one.
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