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Old 7 Aug 2004, 18:52 (Ref:1059506)   #1
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Will Bas Leinders drive Belgian Grand Prix?
Does someone know if Bas Leinders will drive Belgian Grand Prix for Minardi?
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 18:55 (Ref:1059510)   #2
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It said in Autosport that he wouldn't, Stoddart will stick with Bruni.
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 19:27 (Ref:1059523)   #3
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Bas obviously couldn't come up with enough money
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 19:31 (Ref:1059527)   #4
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It's just unbelievable that there is no better Belgian driver than Bas Leinders...
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 19:35 (Ref:1059530)   #5
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Lets play "Name a famous Belgian driver...."

Weren't Mollekens or Saelens ( spelling? ) more promising a few years back though?

Bas is ok, he's won in Dallara Nissan.
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 19:38 (Ref:1059532)   #6
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David Saelens is a better driver than Bas, for sure.
But where the hell is he...

Was Bertrand Gachot Belgian by the way??
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 19:40 (Ref:1059536)   #7
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Yes, he was. You had Thierry Boutsen as well.
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 19:50 (Ref:1059544)   #8
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Didn't Gachot race under the European flag? IIRC he was half french, half belgian and brought up in luxembourg. Saelens is now in ALMS in a works panoz after an unsuccessful season in DTM.
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 19:53 (Ref:1059546)   #9
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Lets play "Name a famous Belgian driver...."
Jacky Ickx?
He drove an old Ferrari F1 earlier today at Zandvoort.
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 19:59 (Ref:1059554)   #10
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He drove them when they were new too.
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 20:00 (Ref:1059556)   #11
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Wasn't he the one that crashed at barcelona half way through the lap of carer testing early in the year?
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 20:16 (Ref:1059573)   #12
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If I am right Philippe Adams was the last Belgian who "raced" in F1.

Leinders is to old (and not good enough?) to start a real F1 career.
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 20:47 (Ref:1059603)   #13
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No, i just feel i have to apologize every time i hear that name...
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 21:46 (Ref:1059650)   #14
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I found this for Belgian F1 drivers...

Johnny Claes (1950-1955)
Paul Frere (1952-1956)
Olivier Gendebien (1958-1961)
Jacky Ickx (1967-1979)
Thierry Boutsen (1983-1993)
Philippe Adams (1994)

Source http://paddockf1.tripod.com/belgium.html#present
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 21:48 (Ref:1059655)   #15
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What about Marc Goossens?
I'm sure he's better than Bas too!
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 21:56 (Ref:1059661)   #16
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On that website I posted above it's written that Marc Goossens is too old for F1.
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 22:02 (Ref:1059664)   #17
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bah, it's only Minardi...who cares?
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 22:19 (Ref:1059675)   #18
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Marc Goosens is very underrated and could do a job for Minardi.
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 22:25 (Ref:1059686)   #19
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Eric van der Poele was Belgian as well - a lost talent if ever there was one. Erik Comas is another they missed off.

Leinders did indeed crash on his first ever lap in a F1 car, which is pretty amusing. He's got an OK CV, but nothing to say 'good enough for F1'.
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Old 7 Aug 2004, 22:28 (Ref:1059689)   #20
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Erik Comas is French.

Bloody good driver too.

He could have won races in the right car.
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I think, if Golden Palace.com and some Benelux sponsors raised their sponsorship enough to take over the principal ex-Wilux Minardi sponsorship spaces for next Belgian GP, then Bas would race there. If not, we'll wait until next year to see what happens.
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Old 8 Aug 2004, 10:52 (Ref:1059993)   #22
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I found this for Belgian F1 drivers...

Johnny Claes (1950-1955)
Paul Frere (1952-1956)
Olivier Gendebien (1958-1961)
Jacky Ickx (1967-1979)
Thierry Boutsen (1983-1993)
Philippe Adams (1994)

Source http://paddockf1.tripod.com/belgium.html#present
These are all French speaking Belgians, Bas Leinders was the first Dutch speaking Belgian who drove a F1 car.
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No, i just feel i have to apologize every time i hear that name...
Almost every country had such drivers, i.e. Italy: Giovanni Lavaggi, Malaysia: Alex Yoong, Brazil: Ricardo Rosset, Japan: Taki Inoue.
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Old 8 Aug 2004, 11:15 (Ref:1060019)   #24
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These are all French speaking Belgians, Bas Leinders was the first Dutch speaking Belgian who drove a F1 car.
What about van der Poele? Just guessing, but his name sounds Dutch rather than French.

England seems to have had mroe of the opposite drivers in recent years - guys with more talent than money (Wilson, Hynes, Kerr, Paffett et al). In the 60s and 70s a lot of funded English guys were on the grid, David Purely was one of the least impressive, despite his famed heroics in trying to save Roger Williamson.
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Van der Poele and Adams sounding Dutch but they are French speaking.I think they are able to speak Dutch (with an big French accent ).
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