Season 4 - Page 13

Adri_tifosi · 15 Aug 2008, 21:23 (Ref:2269852)

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META4 · 15 Aug 2008, 21:27 (Ref:2269853)

When you have a look at the pictures of the cars being build now on the A1GP website, we are far from a Formula one , just a basic F3000

http://www.a1gp.com/News/NewsArticle.aspx?newsId=41866

dave not neil · 16 Aug 2008, 08:14 (Ref:2269976)

The old car WAS a basic 3000 car. The new car is far more advanced than the old car. It might not have somthing flashy like carbon wishbones, but believe me, the car is a massive improvement on the old one.

RichardRenes · 16 Aug 2008, 17:28 (Ref:2270174)

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Originally Posted by dave not neil

The old car WAS a basic 3000 car. The new car is far more advanced than the old car. It might not have somthing flashy like carbon wishbones, but believe me, the car is a massive improvement on the old one.

Actually, the new car has carbon wishbones

. I have seen it in person today.

And tomorrow I will see the first non-yellow new A1GP car in action.

dave not neil · 16 Aug 2008, 18:35 (Ref:2270205)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardRenes

Actually, the new car has carbon wishbones

. I have seen it in person today.

And tomorrow I will see the first non-yellow new A1GP car in action.

I don't know what youve seen, but I'm telling you, it has got Aero Section Steel wishbones

diabloA1 · 16 Aug 2008, 18:55 (Ref:2270210)

Have seen close up images of the suspension parts. They don't look like carbon to me

RichardRenes · 16 Aug 2008, 19:15 (Ref:2270218)

http://www.holland4racing.nl/galleri...8/dsc04662.jpg if that's not carbonfibre, then what is it ?

pic taken today of the 2nd running car, the team Netherlands car which will run tomorrow at the Bavaria City Race.

dave not neil · 16 Aug 2008, 19:18 (Ref:2270220)

What exactly do you think a wishbone is?

http://www.holland4racing.nl/galleri.../dsc04748.html
You can see the welds!

diabloA1 · 17 Aug 2008, 04:30 (Ref:2270347)

Richard,

Can you tell us more about the event - Bavaria City Race

META4 · 17 Aug 2008, 05:33 (Ref:2270351)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardRenes

http://www.holland4racing.nl/galleri...8/dsc04662.jpg if that's not carbonfibre, then what is it ?

pic taken today of the 2nd running car, the team Netherlands car which will run tomorrow at the Bavaria City Race.

Maybe we should explain to him what is the difference between a Front Wing and a Wishbone...

I definitly believe that this car looks "Cheap" compare to the announced "Ferrari F1"

jackschmidt · 17 Aug 2008, 07:00 (Ref:2270367)

It's funny how you guys bash the car for being too much like an F1 car and now are bashing it because it's not enough an F1 car. Hehe.

META4 · 17 Aug 2008, 13:27 (Ref:2270501)

The A1GP Organisation "sold" the new car like the "Ferrari F1 2004", the reality is other . In my case, i am just relating facts

I am not even sure that Ferrari produce the Tub.

The incident that happened in testing at Magny-Cours could be explained by the fact that this new is car has been completly redesigned from the originial F1 Car

ss_collins · 17 Aug 2008, 13:37 (Ref:2270503)

cough... formula superfund

dave not neil · 17 Aug 2008, 14:02 (Ref:2270508)

Ferrari don't produce the tub, or car, but A1 have never said that they would. They said that the design would be based on the F2004, and that Rory Byrne would 'consult' on the design. If that car doesnt look like the F2004, then what does?

And its definately not a Formula Superfund, although it does have some striking similarities, and I belive, the tub is produced by the same company.

bradrive · 17 Aug 2008, 14:58 (Ref:2270529)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardRenes

http://www.holland4racing.nl/galleri...8/dsc04662.jpg if that's not carbonfibre, then what is it ?

pic taken today of the 2nd running car, the team Netherlands car which will run tomorrow at the Bavaria City Race.

The wishbones are from Sae4130 chrom molybdenum steel. The most intelligent choice for any singleseater spec series car. When you crash them, they bend (unlike the F1 cfc wishbones that when crashing, have a tendency to disintegrate and make the car ungovernable). If you disintegrate a whisbone you (unlike to when you bend a suspension) end up loosing the brakes and the steering. Not what you want after crashing...

bradrive · 17 Aug 2008, 15:02 (Ref:2270531)

Quote:

Originally Posted by META4

Maybe we should explain to him what is the difference between a Front Wing and a Wishbone...

I definitly believe that this car looks "Cheap" compare to the announced "Ferrari F1"

From the engineering point of view it looks quite interesting. May be overengineered for a single car spec series.
It was never the intention of A1GP to make it look as a F1, they want to maintain their own corporate identity, which is why the engine cover will have a sharkfin extension as the old Lola car had.

Adri_tifosi · 17 Aug 2008, 20:20 (Ref:2270651)

If you want to do a F1 car you need a big budget to rebuild the cars after each race.

Give a F1 to rookie drivers from Pakistan , Lebanon . . .

dave not neil · 17 Aug 2008, 20:35 (Ref:2270654)

Yeah not only that, the teams only have 3 days to prepare the cars for each event, so you can't have a car that requires a huge amount of work.

cos · 18 Aug 2008, 19:34 (Ref:2271144)

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Originally Posted by F3 Rocks

It will be interesting to see who turns up on Tuesday at Silverstone representing team USA I still think it will be Andretti Green, and that would put Marco Andretti in the car. As I understand it they haven't started the car build yet also an indication as to a change

Marco Andretti + Dancia Patrick ? + Andretti Green = new seat holders Team USA ?[/QUOTE]

This rumour has made it to SpeedTV; Robin Miller reckons Andretti (but without Green?) will buy out the A1 USA franchise and park Marco and DP in the get some road course experience.

F3 Rocks · 18 Aug 2008, 21:24 (Ref:2271204)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cos

Marco Andretti + Dancia Patrick ? + Andretti Green = new seat holders Team USA ?

This rumour has made it to SpeedTV; Robin Miller reckons Andretti (but without Green?) will buy out the A1 USA franchise and park Marco and DP in the get some road course experience.[/quote]

I hope the "Dump Danica" and "pair Summerton with Marco." campaign gets going.

Kiwi3 · 19 Aug 2008, 05:48 (Ref:2271345)

Would be huge for A1GP if it happened although a tough break for Summerton

Lam Pak · 19 Aug 2008, 12:28 (Ref:2271531)

the first race gonna be delay or not?it doesn't come easily and there are going to be bad days.

cos · 20 Aug 2008, 15:59 (Ref:2272196)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69904
http://www.a1gp.com/News/NewsArticle.aspx?newsId=41879

Interesting idea, not sure how much it will actually help the lower-down teams though.

nic.v814 · 21 Aug 2008, 11:35 (Ref:2272664)

yea it will be interesting to see if it helps

dazbaz_99 · 21 Aug 2008, 18:31 (Ref:2272872)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69927

Mugello round postponed!

I wonder when this round will now take place, will a scheduled later round have to make way for it??

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