2012 Japanese Super GT - Page 46

Ultimo · 31 Oct 2012, 13:16 (Ref:3160611)

So, will we see an LFA? Also, won't it be weird as hell seeing an NSX, GT-R (and LFA?), up against an M3, C, and A5?

juicy sushi · 31 Oct 2012, 16:05 (Ref:3160656)

I think a coupe version of the next Llexus IS would likely be the Toyota entry, just because it would fit dimensionally and be an effective DTM entry. I can't see them doing anything to dilute the LFA's position but that's just me.

aneesh99 · 31 Oct 2012, 16:55 (Ref:3160669)

Quote:

Originally Posted by juicy sushi

I think a coupe version of the next Llexus IS would likely be the Toyota entry, just because it would fit dimensionally and be an effective DTM entry. I can't see them doing anything to dilute the LFA's position but that's just me.

For sure, I don't think the LF-A really fits the grand tourer image really.

DistortedSmile · 31 Oct 2012, 18:20 (Ref:3160685)

I don't see why it's important to fit in with the DTM 'touring' car image (which IMO now look more like GTs than TCs) when Honda will be entering a mid engined super car.

I don't think it would be any weirder seeing the LFA than something that's going to resemble this:

And why do the japanese have to fit in with the germans and not the other way around? Audi could use the MR layout like Honda and base their car on the R8, Mercedes could use the SLS or perhaps the SL65 and BMW err... I suppose they could use the M6.
I realize Audi and Mercedes already have racing versions of the R8 and the SLS, but so what? Nissan has two different versions of the GT-R and they have them running in the same series.

Just please have them rectify the engine rules and at least let them keep the V8s, the prospect of 4 cylinder engines in this kind of cars is just so unispiring.

hondafan37 · 31 Oct 2012, 19:06 (Ref:3160696)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DistortedSmile

I don't see why it's important to fit in with the DTM 'touring' car image (which IMO now look more like GTs than TCs) when Honda will be entering a mid engined super car.

I don't think it would be any weirder seeing the LFA than something that's going to resemble this:

And why do the japanese have to fit in with the germans and not the other way around? Audi could use the MR layout like Honda and base their car on the R8, Mercedes could use the SLS or perhaps the SL65 and BMW err... I suppose they could use the M6.
I realize Audi and Mercedes already have racing versions of the R8 and the SLS, but so what? Nissan has two different versions of the GT-R and they have them running in the same series.

Just please have them rectify the engine rules and at least let them keep the V8s, the prospect of 4 cylinder engines in this kind of cars is just so unispiring.

I think every brand should be free to choose which model will be use, whether a tourist coupe, a GT with front engine or a mid-engined GT.
In the same way the brands should be able to choose between a V8 or a 4 cylinder turbo

KingKenny04 · 31 Oct 2012, 21:41 (Ref:3160762)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DistortedSmile

I don't see why it's important to fit in with the DTM 'touring' car image (which IMO now look more like GTs than TCs) when Honda will be entering a mid engined super car.

I don't think it would be any weirder seeing the LFA than something that's going to resemble this:

And why do the japanese have to fit in with the germans and not the other way around? Audi could use the MR layout like Honda and base their car on the R8, Mercedes could use the SLS or perhaps the SL65 and BMW err... I suppose they could use the M6.
I realize Audi and Mercedes already have racing versions of the R8 and the SLS, but so what? Nissan has two different versions of the GT-R and they have them running in the same series.

Just please have them rectify the engine rules and at least let them keep the V8s, the prospect of 4 cylinder engines in this kind of cars is just so unispiring.

The article I read about the rules agreement state that the agreement only covers the chassis; the engine rules remain in place as they are for the two series.

MagVanisher · 1 Nov 2012, 03:28 (Ref:3160854)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingKenny04

The article I read about the rules agreement state that the agreement only covers the chassis; the engine rules remain in place as they are for the two series.

The latter part would suspect to change if both series become successful with their new combined regulations. But I doubt that it would happen.

TF110 · 1 Nov 2012, 07:08 (Ref:3160900)

I think Honda will be alone in running the MR layout (just because the NSX). They don't have any 'sporty' cars that are FR. The S2000 was the last one and it's been gone for a number of years. If they're using inline 4 turbo's maybe Toyota enters a GT-86 turbo? It's almost two years down the road from now, I think Toyota will have a higher powered version of that car. If not my guess is a Lexus IS coupe, or a Lexus coupe in general, not probably not the LFA

Japanese Samurai · 1 Nov 2012, 09:22 (Ref:3160951)

2013 Super GT callender (revised)
R1 Okayama Apr 6-7
R2 Fuji Apr 28-29
Exhibition Korea May 18-19
R3 Sepang Jun 15-16
R4 SUGO Sep 27-28
R5 Suzuka Aug 17-18
R6 Fuji Sep 7-8
R7 Autopolis Oct 5-6
R8 Motegi Nov 2-3
JAF GP Fuji Nov 15-17

MagVanisher · 1 Nov 2012, 16:20 (Ref:3161123)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

2013 Super GT callender (revised)
R1 Okayama Apr 6-7
R2 Fuji Apr 28-29
Exhibition Korea May 18-19
R3 Sepang Jun 15-16
R4 SUGO Sep 27-28
R5 Suzuka Aug 17-18
R6 Fuji Sep 7-8
R7 Autopolis Oct 5-6
R8 Motegi Nov 2-3
JAF GP Fuji Nov 15-17

Why would they stage an exhibition- Oh wait, expansion!

On the other hand, I wish they would race in Macau but the track would not be suitable for multi-class racing.

TF110 · 2 Nov 2012, 05:34 (Ref:3161417)

10 races is great, even if only 8 count towards the championship.

Japanese Samurai · 2 Nov 2012, 08:35 (Ref:3161465)

Autosport Super GT report
About GT500
*Lexus introduced new gearbox casing, rearwing stay, roof, and rear cowl in the middle of the season. By these development, the center of gravity of SC430 became low 2-3 mm.

About GT300
*There is a rumor that the monocoque of Nissan Reaf NISMO RC is diverted to the GT300 Mother chassis.
*New Mother chassis vehicle will not participate next season.
*GTA will determine original BoP figures itself next season.

I Rosputnik · 2 Nov 2012, 10:49 (Ref:3161521)

Quote:

Originally Posted by hondafan37

I think every brand should be free to choose which model will be use, whether a tourist coupe, a GT with front engine or a mid-engined GT.
In the same way the brands should be able to choose between a V8 or a 4 cylinder turbo

Agreed, I personally want to see the door count and engine positioning issues moved to the side for a while. I want to see where the DTM and Super GT are going with this.

Can't say I've been the biggest fan of pure silhouette racing, but the fact that they (Super GT and DTM) seem to be finding ways of bringing in road technologies (And by extension the TTA/STCC in Sweden in the future) I am willing to give it a go.

Japanese Samurai · 2 Nov 2012, 12:20 (Ref:3161552)

GTA announces BoP for the JAF GP.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44635

*Restrictor size of JAF-GT vechles was expanded.
(Shiden, IS350, Vemac350R, Prius, Garaiya, CR-Z, BRZ, RG3)
*Restrictor size of FIA-GT2 (F430) was expanded.
*Original BoP by GTA was imposed on FIA-GT3 car for the first time.
(GTR: +35kg, Porsche and Vantage GT3: +50kg)

juicy sushi · 2 Nov 2012, 12:38 (Ref:3161559)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

GTA announces BoP for the JAF GP.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44635

*Restrictor size of JAF-GT vechles was expanded.
(Shiden, IS350, Vemac350R, Prius, Garaiya, CR-Z, BRZ, RG3)
*Restrictor size of FIA-GT2 (F430) was expanded.
*Original BoP by GTA was imposed on FIA-GT3 car for the first time.
(GTR: +35kg, Porsche and Vantage GT3: +50kg)

Excellent, it will be nice to see the CRA and BRZ more consistently competitive. I find it interesting the BMW isn't getting a weight increase, as it seemed to me that it was a little bit quicker than the GT-R, and on level with the Porsche.

DeathOrGlory · 2 Nov 2012, 13:01 (Ref:3161568)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

2013 Super GT callender (revised)
R1 Okayama Apr 6-7
R2 Fuji Apr 28-29
Exhibition Korea May 18-19
R3 Sepang Jun 15-16
R4 SUGO Sep 27-28
R5 Suzuka Aug 17-18
R6 Fuji Sep 7-8
R7 Autopolis Oct 5-6
R8 Motegi Nov 2-3
JAF GP Fuji Nov 15-17

Samurai-san, what are the race distances? Is the Suzuka 1000km retained?

MagVanisher · 2 Nov 2012, 13:15 (Ref:3161574)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Autosport Super GT report
About GT500
*Lexus introduced new gearbox casing, rearwing stay, roof, and rear cowl in the middle of the season. By these development, the center of gravity of SC430 became low 2-3 mm.

It would be nice if they change it from SC430 to a new model, but no they didn't do it!

Monkey Head · 2 Nov 2012, 14:07 (Ref:3161584)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

GTA announces BoP for the JAF GP.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44635

*Restrictor size of JAF-GT vechles was expanded.
(Shiden, IS350, Vemac350R, Prius, Garaiya, CR-Z, BRZ, RG3)
*Restrictor size of FIA-GT2 (F430) was expanded.
*Original BoP by GTA was imposed on FIA-GT3 car for the first time.
(GTR: +35kg, Porsche and Vantage GT3: +50kg)

Good imposed from GTA as Porsche and Aston Martin benefit from clean sheet result from FIA GT3,which BoP coefficient remain low.

Japanese Samurai · 3 Nov 2012, 11:18 (Ref:3161842)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathOrGlory

Samurai-san, what are the race distances? Is the Suzuka 1000km retained?

2013 Super GT callender (revised)
R1 Okayama Apr 6-7 300km
R2 Fuji Apr 28-29 500km
Exhibition Korea May 18-19 ?
R3 Sepang Jun 15-16 ?
R4 SUGO Sep 27-28 300km
R5 Suzuka Aug 17-18 ?
R6 Fuji Sep 7-8 300km
R7 Autopolis Oct 5-6 300km
R8 Motegi Nov 2-3 250km
JAF GP Fuji Nov 15-17 ?
http://www.jaf.or.jp/msports/msinfo/...ms_news238.pdf (P.42)

DeathOrGlory · 3 Nov 2012, 11:42 (Ref:3161849)

I'm hoping the 1000km distance is retained.

sukispeed · 5 Nov 2012, 00:01 (Ref:3162647)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

2013 Super GT callender (revised)
R1 Okayama Apr 6-7 300km
R2 Fuji Apr 28-29 500km
Exhibition Korea May 18-19 ?
R3 Sepang Jun 15-16 ?
R4 SUGO Sep 27-28 300km
R5 Suzuka Aug 17-18 ?
R6 Fuji Sep 7-8 300km
R7 Autopolis Oct 5-6 300km
R8 Motegi Nov 2-3 250km
JAF GP Fuji Nov 15-17 ?
http://www.jaf.or.jp/msports/msinfo/...ms_news238.pdf (P.42)

I know this is not offical but round 4 and 5 are out of place, either the rounds numbers are wrong or the dates are.

Japanese Samurai · 6 Nov 2012, 09:00 (Ref:3163251)

According to Takuya Yura (Mooncraft),
JAF GP is a last race of Shiden.
They sell off Shiden (with two 1UZ-FE engine and set of parts).
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44787

MagVanisher · 6 Nov 2012, 13:31 (Ref:3163351)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

According to Takuya Yura (Mooncraft),
JAF GP is a last race of Shiden.
They sell off Shiden (with two 1UZ-FE engine and set of parts).
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44787

So much for the Shiden... I love the Evangelion livery and now it's gone for next year!

Man, I hope they would allow DPs in GT300 but it seems that they can't do that!

Salamus · 7 Nov 2012, 13:48 (Ref:3163748)

Maybe an American team can buy the Shiden and race it in Grand-Am.

Japanese Samurai · 9 Nov 2012, 08:26 (Ref:3164415)

MOLA (#1, MI), NISMO (#23, BS) and SARD (#39, MI) carry out private tire test in Okayama on Nov 8-9.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44840

Participation drivers:
*Quintarelli, Yanagida, Motoyama, Krumm, Wakisaka, and Ishiura (GT500).
*Tomonobu Fujii, Katsumasa Chiyo, Yuhi Sekiguchi and Kazuki Hoshino (GT300, NISMO GT-R).

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