2013 Japanese Super GT

[aneesh99]

Originally Posted by zanfo zanfagni

SGT500 cars started to use restrictors for the engine just recently. Some years ago was used revlimiters and mandatory turbo pressure. During qualifying cars had less restrictions so JGTC GT500 could use much more power.

Got a source for power output? I've been looking for good resource regarding the JGTC era cars and their specifications.

On that note, here's something interesting. Lap times between 2000 and 2004 were around 9-10 seconds quicker for all cars around the track. The new configuration in 2005 slowed everything down (ranging from P1 to Super Taikyu) by 9-11 seconds.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by zanfo zanfagni

SGT500 cars started to use restrictors for the engine just recently. Some years ago was used revlimiters and mandatory turbo pressure.

rev limiters and turbo pressures are restrictors too..they've used restrictors since like 1995.

[hondafan37]

Dome developing GT300 Toyota GT86

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...0-toyota-gt86/

[aneesh99]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

Dome developing GT300 Toyota GT86

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...0-toyota-gt86/

Sam was talking about the chassis on Midweek Motorsport this week, and he's damn right, this is a genius move. This season has really sorted out the GT300 spec cars woes vs GT3. He also said that running a car like this would be cheaper than a GT3 car. If this GT86 turns out to be a solid performer, maybe we'll see more GT300 cars in the class!

[NaBUru38]

I have another question. Which are the teams with most GT500 wins, and how many wins did they get?

[aneesh99]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

I have another question. Which are the teams with most GT500 wins, and how many wins did they get?

Single season or lifetime?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

I have another question. Which are the teams with most GT500 wins, and how many wins did they get?

Google is your friend.

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by aneesh99

If this GT86 turns out to be a solid performer, maybe we'll see more GT300 cars in the class!

But it would only be available in FR format, and not the MR-style cars in my opinion.

[aneesh99]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

But it would only be available in FR format, and not the MR-style cars in my opinion.

SS also said there is some indication that Honda will be using this same chassis with some adaptation for their new GT500 NSX, who knows what is possible

[hondafan37]

Originally Posted by aneesh99

SS also said there is some indication that Honda will be using this same chassis with some adaptation for their new GT500 NSX, who knows what is possible

I think the GT 500 and GT 300 chassis are not the same.

[Christian Mogami]

Dome is not involved with the 2014 Honda NSX GT500!

[TF110]

The mother chassis can be used for mid engine cars.

[aneesh99]

Originally Posted by Christian Mogami

Dome is not involved with the 2014 Honda NSX GT500!

Not directly no, but someone needs to manufacture these SGT/DTM spec chassis, and I was just passing on what Sam (who knows far more than I do) was sharing on MWM. Bar Dome, I don't see any chassis constructor being able to provide what the GT500 cars need, and the Japanese teams certainly aren't going to use Dallara

Originally Posted by hondafan37

I think the GT 500 and GT 300 chassis are not the same.

I honestly don't know if the exact same chassis or a modified version would be used. All in all though, at this point, Sam was just passing on some things he had heard, whether or not this comes to fruition, who knows!

[aneesh99]

Sorry for the double post (and cross post from the Acura/HPD thread), thought I'd put this here as well since this is SGT news:

This is from Sam when Hindy joked that he was surprised they didn't just turn the chassis around to make the GT86 MR

(53:30) :
'Well this is actually something they're having to go through with the GT500 Honda because Honda is building a mid-engined GT500 car but still using the same monocoque and I think they're trying to do the same with the GT300 monocoque. So could you turn it around? Not quite that simple because the structures wouldn't be in the right direction but it has been designed to be very... Later on you will see actually that there isn't a huge amount to be done'.

Also, the engines for 2014 will be either 1.6 or 2L (called NRE, Next Race Engine) turbos with 'massive power'. He also alleged that DTM have agreed to adopt these engines for 2015. I think it's been covered before though.

[hondafan37]

Originally Posted by aneesh99

Not directly no, but someone needs to manufacture these SGT/DTM spec chassis, and I was just passing on what Sam (who knows far more than I do) was sharing on MWM. Bar Dome, I don't see any chassis constructor being able to provide what the GT500 cars need, and the Japanese teams certainly aren't going to use Dallara



I honestly don't know if the exact same chassis or a modified version would be used. All in all though, at this point, Sam was just passing on some things he had heard, whether or not this comes to fruition, who knows!

Sorry for my ignorance, but who is Sam?

[aneesh99]

Originally Posted by hondafan37

Sorry for my ignorance, but who is Sam?

Sam Collins, the guys that writes most of the SGT stuff for Race Car Engineering. Goes by ss_collins on Ten Tenths

[hondafan37]

Originally Posted by aneesh99

Sam Collins, the guys that writes most of the SGT stuff for Race Car Engineering. Goes by ss_collins on Ten Tenths

Thanks you

[Christian Mogami]

You have to remember that Toray(worlds biggest CF supplier) bought Dome Carbon Magic from the Dome Group this year.

Called now Toray Carbon Magic

They would most likely be making the SGT/DTM GT500 CF Tub in Japan and Germany.

[NaBUru38]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

I have another question. Which are the teams with most GT500 wins, and how many wins did they get?

Originally Posted by aneesh99

Single season or lifetime?

All-time

Originally Posted by Matt

Google is your friend.

I don't want to read each Wikipedia article and add each winner. Someone must have done that already.

[ss_collins]

In 2014 GT500 cars will use the same design of chassis as DTM, but made in Japan (by Dome/Toray), Honda will be mid engine, the others front engine.

GT300 mother chassis can be mid engine or rear engine again will be by Dome/Toray.

The engines will be 2.0 litre inline fours built to the new NRE rulebook. DTM is said to be adopting these engines in 2015 but I'm not convinced.

[ss_collins]

More info here -

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...e-regulations/

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by ss_collins

The engines will be 2.0 litre inline fours built to the new NRE rulebook. DTM is said to be adopting these engines in 2015 but I'm not convinced.

Same here. In my opinion, they should have a two-engine option; turbo inline-4 for hybrids, NA 6-cylinder for non-hybrids.

[Japanese Samurai]

According to Autosport web,
export of the lithium ion battery of CR-Z and Prius was accepted this year.
So we can see hybrid racecar at Sepang!
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=48830

[juicy sushi]

Originally Posted by ss_collins

In 2014 GT500 cars will use the same design of chassis as DTM, but made in Japan (by Dome/Toray), Honda will be mid engine, the others front engine.

GT300 mother chassis can be mid engine or rear engine again will be by Dome/Toray.

The engines will be 2.0 litre inline fours built to the new NRE rulebook. DTM is said to be adopting these engines in 2015 but I'm not convinced.

It would be nice though. I remember readig somewhere that the target was 600hp, which would be a good boost for the DTM (pun intended).

As I said on twitter, that mother chassis is a milf, and I can't wait to see them on the track.

[MagVanisher]

I know it's not related to Super GT, but what happened to DTM USA?

On the other hand, I think juicy sushi's suggestion of 600 HP would attract some of the customers like Ford, Chevrolet, and Dodge, if they want to field their respective pony cars, despite the Inline-4 powerplant. I hope Super GT upped the HP limit while GT300 should add 50 HP to have 350 HP.