LM24 Le Mans 2009 - Official Entry List - Page 4

cmk · 26 Feb 2009, 19:00 (Ref:2404815)

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Originally Posted by Truckosaurus

Can I assume that "AMR Eastern Europe" will be Charouz's car?

Plenty of Aston LMP1 seats to be filled....

I am not sure whether any of them are more or less Charouz - I'm guessing it was just the usual 2 cars per team name deal as Toni is involved with the project as a whole.

Lots of free seats though, you're right! Wonder if we'll see some former Prodrive pilots in the car? Rydell, Menu? More tin-top experience there, but same with Laurent Aiello who was successful for Audi in the R8.

**Aysedasi** · 26 Feb 2009, 19:03 (Ref:2404818)

What's the score with Racing Box? I know I don't keep up to date these days as much as I ought to, but after last year's debacle, what's that doing there?

Ultimo · 26 Feb 2009, 19:05 (Ref:2404822)

Will Pescarolo's 908 entry be heavily supported by Peugeot? Would their support even be allowed?

LMP1 is looking stellar I gotta say for this year - I hadn't heard about the R10s or Henri's 908 so that really surprised me - as did seeing any RS Spyders in LMP2. I knew Acura wasn't coming but I was still disappointed not to see their names on the list when it was published. This should be a great race!

NightStalk3r · 26 Feb 2009, 19:06 (Ref:2404824)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

What's the score with Racing Box? I know I don't keep up to date these days as much as I ought to, but after last year's debacle, what's that doing there?

Last years debacle wasn't actually Racing Box's fault.

HORNDAWG · 26 Feb 2009, 19:07 (Ref:2404825)

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Originally Posted by deggis

How sure can we be that Dome (with or without ECOSpeed) actually applied for entry? News at dome.co.jp is only in Japanese and Google translation is too gibberish but I can't see anything referring clearly to Le Mans this year. I know Japanese Samurai's translations in the Toyota thread and that Japanese site (sports-carracing.net) that mentioned oddly LMS, 24LM, last race of ALMS and Fuji+Shangai, but was this stuff official?

From what everyone is carrying, as the teams release, pretty sure. But since we just heard about this team 3 days ago, and they have no history per se at Le Mans with a Dome only being on the grid last year at Le Mans and nowhere else maybe the ACO decided that they needed to participate in a series before they get the nod. And who is to say if they actually had their app. in before the dead line or not?? Was it wishful thinking on their part because of the Dome affiliation? Or did Dome apply?

L.P.

**Aysedasi** · 26 Feb 2009, 19:07 (Ref:2404826)

Fair enough.

HORNDAWG · 26 Feb 2009, 19:10 (Ref:2404830)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Oreca-Courage, but with the Judd rather than AIM block - don't know whether it will otherwise be in 08 or 09 spec.

Huh? It has to be to '09 spec or it can't race.

L.P.

rdjones · 26 Feb 2009, 19:19 (Ref:2404837)

On the whole I have to say its pretty much as I expected. I feel a bit sorry for Larbre I did think they might get the Saleen with it being the last year GT1

Oh yes and one other which car do we think Yojiro Terada is going turn up this year?

It's going to be cracker, roll on June !!!

NightStalk3r · 26 Feb 2009, 19:23 (Ref:2404840)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Huh? It has to be to '09 spec or it can't race.

L.P.

Well Pescarolo is getting a way with an 08 Spec 908.

Dead-Eye · 26 Feb 2009, 19:24 (Ref:2404842)

With a 08 car, but you can expect it not to have the 08 aero.

HORNDAWG · 26 Feb 2009, 19:28 (Ref:2404845)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

I wonder which chassis Vitaphone will be using?

And I wonder who will drive for Jetalliance? Will they bring back Wendlinger, Sharp & Müller.

Tom.

Ya, I was wondering the same thing. Will this be the Lienhard car or one of the ex-Penske works chassis? I think it would be more fiscally prudent for Vitaphone to pair up with Horag in running the Lienhard car. Bartels/Bertolini/Theys ??

L.P.

HORNDAWG · 26 Feb 2009, 19:32 (Ref:2404848)

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Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

With a 08 car, but you can expect it not to have the 08 aero.

Exactly, I think we are getting cross wired here!

L.P.

littleman · 26 Feb 2009, 19:45 (Ref:2404855)

Given the reg changes for 2009, and the ACO's declared intention of regulating the diesels still further if deemed necessary, can a petrol engined machine realistically win this year's race?

cmk · 26 Feb 2009, 19:47 (Ref:2404858)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Ya, I was wondering the same thing. Will this be the Lienhard car or one of the ex-Penske works chassis? I think it would be more fiscally prudent for Vitaphone to pair up with Horag in running the Lienhard car. Bartels/Bertolini/Theys ??

L.P.

I strongly suspect they will lease out the Horag chassis (as they did the Strakka Aston), but I believe at least 1 ex-Penske chassis is in Europe now as well.

How they structure this effort will be interesting. Last year, they collaborated heavily with Strakka so it was as much a branding exercise as anything (though they contributed team personnel and a funded quick man in Negrao). This year there is not quite as obvious a team to link up with. If Horag has gentlemen funding their campaign in the LMS, surely they would have submitted an LM entry if they could fund it. So is Vitaphone contributing drivers and funding, are they getting money from Ramos so he can drive, or what?! I'd love to see 3 pros in the car, but is that reasonable? Is Porsche supporting this (with a driver)? If so, why was it not on their press release with Goh and Essex cars? So many questions!!!

chewymonster · 26 Feb 2009, 19:50 (Ref:2404861)

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Originally Posted by littleman

Given the reg changes for 2009, and the ACO's declared intention of regulating the diesels still further if deemed necessary, can a petrol engined machine realistically win this year's race?

Engine performance isn't the only things that determines a Le Mans victory. Audi has shown that the drivers, reliability/fixability, planning, fuel economy, and pit stops are key elements to winning @ Le Mans despite lap times.

On the other hand, chassis design also plays a role in lap times.

cmk · 26 Feb 2009, 19:54 (Ref:2404863)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Huh? It has to be to '09 spec or it can't race.

L.P.

With respect to rear wing, yes. With respect to everything else Oreca was hoping to change, no. Especially if the changes are taking advantage of the better packaging of the AIM engine, which has reduced vertical height.

deggis · 26 Feb 2009, 19:59 (Ref:2404868)

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Originally Posted by Jamesy-18

Official enough:

Taken from Mariantic about ECOSpeed:

"LMS, Asian LM Series & some ALMS plus LM"

Not really official at all...

HORNDAWG · 26 Feb 2009, 20:08 (Ref:2404873)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Not really official at all...

Hmm, those were the intended entries posted by the team! They did not get the Le Mans invite as evidenced by the official list. But that does not make it any less official, as to what was posted at Mariantic, or DSC for that matter!

L.P.

The Badger · 26 Feb 2009, 20:37 (Ref:2404891)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Or did Dome apply?

From what ive heard , they withdrew their entry due to economics . Im disapointed that it wont be there but , the team really doesnt merit it just yet . We have yet to see this new team .

**FIRE** · 26 Feb 2009, 20:44 (Ref:2404897)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Not really official at all...

It's from a press release from the team. So yes I would call that official.

deggis · 26 Feb 2009, 21:33 (Ref:2404917)

In that case then... it is first time I hear about a press release.

*Uses search* I thought the Toyota thread was the only thread where this was discussed, apparently not...

moonman · 26 Feb 2009, 22:33 (Ref:2404964)

I think there are too many diesels this year. Its good with variety but I found them a little bit boring to watch live last year. 4 diesels out of 55 cars is enough.

rich07 · 27 Feb 2009, 01:50 (Ref:2405051)

Disappointed about their being on Dome this year. Five Audis!! Four Peugoets !! Four Astons!!! LMP1 is going to go off this year!!

Great to see Vitaphone back this year (shame it wont be in GT1

), this year should truly show what a full Vitaphone team effort can do.

And why oh why is there no Saleen in GT1, Larbre are French, I would've thought they would be a shoe in. Its quite annoying that the Larbre Saleen is so far down the reserves list, who really cares about McDreamy!!
Very happy to see not one but TWO Lambos in GT1-awesome!!! Ditto entries for Gigawave and JetAlliance in the DBR9s. I still think it will be a win for one of the factory vettes though.

And Badger's not gonna like this

but I have no problems with there being nine Ferraris in GT2. But as in any class I would prefer to see a battle in every class throughout the race and its great to see the beautiful Aston Martin Vantage finally at LM. Ditto Spyker it wouldnt be GT2 without them.

The359 · 27 Feb 2009, 07:10 (Ref:2405149)

My thoughts...

* Creation got an entry? I know they've been good in the past, but they can't even get a budget together to run ALMS this year? Will they even get a budget to do Le Mans?
* Surprised that Strakka was given an entry. They're probably the weakest entry in LMP1 alongside Creation, and we already have a better Ginetta-Zytek in the field.
* With Gigawave announcing they'll be running Nissan in FIA GT, I wonder how well this effort with their Aston Martin will really go.
* China Endurance Team on the reserve. Surprised because of its uniqueness, but looking at the entry list it has to be an older generation 997.
* WR left out again? Ouch.
* Saleen, especially a Larbre Saleen, being left out is probably the strangest of all.
* Team Seattle being left out is a bit of a surprise too, I'd think the ACO would be all over something for charity.

Japanese Samurai · 27 Feb 2009, 08:24 (Ref:2405183)

Dome announced the comment.
Eco Speed did not do even the entry application!
They even had not paid Dome minimum cost.
Dome seems to be being cheated by the swindle person.
S102 chasis is fortunately at the hand of Dome.

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