Bernie Ecclestone's comments

Moayyed · 30 Oct 2006, 13:22 (Ref:1753567)

It's rumored that Bernie Ecclestone has made some negative comments about marshals to a sport's magazine. I have been unable to verify details. Anyone with more information?

mark_l · 30 Oct 2006, 14:52 (Ref:1753624)

Has Bernie said anything positive about Marshals?

Gridlock · 30 Oct 2006, 16:38 (Ref:1753683)

How many marshals have said anything positive about Bernie?

b1ackcr0w · 30 Oct 2006, 17:08 (Ref:1753706)

Good point Gridlock.

Question. Can it be proved that Bernie doesn't read Ten-Tenths occasionally?

The STIG · 30 Oct 2006, 17:14 (Ref:1753711)

Ten Tenths is a motorsports forum.

Bernie would probably be more likely to read the Financial Times forum(!)

This isn't anything to do with the Sid Watkins lecture at ASI is it?

b1ackcr0w · 30 Oct 2006, 17:48 (Ref:1753733)

The point I was getting at was to deal sucessfully with a man like Bernie Ecclestone, it's absolutly essential that you understand his position & motivations and that you construct your communication with him in such way that he has no reason to defend his position by attacking you.

Bernie is not in control of Motorsports, and in terms of the UK, his influence is almost entirely limited to the British GP and the F1 terms resident here. The limit of his actual influence is as the commercial rights holder of the F1 seris. And his position on marshals should therefore be pretty simple, as long as they don't cause a problem for the running and public image of F1, then why should he bother with us? I bet if you asked him in a way that would ellicit a frank response, he'd be of the view that The FIA, MSA and in turn, the BRDC have varying contractual responsibilities to him to provide an environment to run his races, and therefore any problems and action to resolve those problems is a matter entirely between those bodies and us/BMMC.

So my questions are:
1. Why are we dicussing him, when in fact he's got virtually nothing to do with us?
2. If you stuble upon a bear with a sore tooth, but it's in a deep sleep and not really in your way, why wake it up?

The STIG · 30 Oct 2006, 18:20 (Ref:1753756)

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So my questions are:
1. Why are we dicussing him, when in fact he's got virtually nothing to do with us?
2. If you stuble upon a bear with a sore tooth, but it's in a deep sleep and not really in your way, why wake it up?

A pair of stunningly good points sir. however if he has said something about us or the way we run, why shouldn't we discuss him?

In that scenario, the bear is wide awake and has just taken a swipe...

Gridlock · 30 Oct 2006, 18:38 (Ref:1753772)

Perhaps if we cant say anything nice, dont say anything!
There are lots more people in Motor Sport that make it all worthwhile so lets concentrate on them.

CombeMarshal · 30 Oct 2006, 18:45 (Ref:1753776)

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So my questions are:
1. Why are we dicussing him, when in fact he's got virtually nothing to do with us?

But it's only us that know that, when it gets into the press it just does nothing positive for Marshals, Perhaps we can get Martin Brundle to have a few words on a grid walk one day!

brickkicker · 30 Oct 2006, 18:55 (Ref:1753779)

Just a point, we dont know if he said anything yet but we have all (well almost all) jumped on the attack?

Dave Brand · 30 Oct 2006, 19:04 (Ref:1753786)

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Just a point, we dont know if he said anything yet but we have all (well almost all) jumped on the attack?

Makes a change from slagging off the MSA!

brickkicker · 30 Oct 2006, 19:26 (Ref:1753798)

Im sure they will be dragged into it soon

outflat · 30 Oct 2006, 21:46 (Ref:1753885)

Hmm.

Someone may have said something maybe negative but we don't know and aren't sure?

Not so much a storm in a tea cup but a bit of drizzle in a thimble!

EvilPumpkin · 31 Oct 2006, 08:23 (Ref:1754141)

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Has Bernie said anything positive about Marshals?

Actually yes. I have a letter from him - actually signed by him too ,not mimeographed or pp'd - stating that motorsport could not survive without marshals.

I'm pretty sure if you dig enough, you'll find it on this forum actually.

scorch · 31 Oct 2006, 08:50 (Ref:1754169)

He is intitled to comment on specific incidents and comment on the marshalls performance. Thats not exactly new everybody does that.

ss_collins · 31 Oct 2006, 09:25 (Ref:1754212)

I'm a bi of fan of Bernie - so should all of you be without Bernie its likely that only 10% of you would be on here and its questionable whether this board would exist at all. Bernie made international motorsport what it is today, it means that we can watch every race on TV, and that's made a lot of people in the sport wealthy. One of the old hands in this office who pre dates Bernie-world sings his praises often ("without Bernie none of us would have a job!") this is true. Without a large TV prescence attracting new fans Autosport and Motorsport News would have folded long ago, Racecar Engineering would never have existed and NASCAR would rule the world.

Now I don't agree with all his descisions and ways of operating - but to brand him pure evil is unfair, the man made motorsport what it is and probably made most of you fans, give him credit for that.

Anyway did he slag of any marshals?

EvilPumpkin · 31 Oct 2006, 09:54 (Ref:1754243)

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