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This is something I truly do not understand. Now the strategic group has to figure out a way to make the things louder? Would fans prefer it if the teams had amplifiers and loudspeakers on the back of their cars loudly playing the sounds of 70's era V12's?
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17 Apr 2014, 13:32 (Ref:3393876) | #327 | ||
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I personally don't have a problem with the sound. The new power train is very torquey and means the drivers have a car which they really have to drive.
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17 Apr 2014, 16:42 (Ref:3393989) | #328 | ||
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This whole issue about the sound of the cars is pathetic.
People should embrace the WEALTH of technology that the new cars offer. It's a sad state of affairs if the SPL of race cars is all that matters .. |
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No it's not.
Regardless of what you guys are trying to say, the sound is important. I'm not saying the new cars need to be as loud as the V8's, but to me F1 needs to be in a league of it's own as far as sound goes. It can be with the new hybrid+turbo tones, but in my opinion the actual engine should still be singing. The fuel flow restrictions have them limited around 12krpm, but I have heard a few of them rev to over 13krpm and they sounded good. I think if they did spin them to 15krpm it would provide a better balance. Just my opinion. If you don't get it, watch this ad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_kwxzU4wL4 This advertisement is spectacular and the first time I saw it, it made me proud to be a fan of F1. I'm not saying it is necessarily right that people are so focused on the sound of F1, but to me you cannot argue that it's unimportant. |
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Oh yes it is.
You're being unfair by not quoting the second line. Jeremy says it's unimportant because we have gained other things and it shouldn't be regarded as all that matters. Feel free to contradict me: the previous generation of V8s sounded rubbish, just loud. |
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But most of the fans in talking about that ad seem to prefer the later cars. |
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There's no doubt we will all get used to the sound, I don't even think that many fans will turn away because of it. But I don't think you can argue that sound is not an important element of F1. Again, the previous generation V8's are not the noise or volume that the current PU's should try to replicate, but I still think it needs to be a little more 'unique'. |
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Well, good luck with that.
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I'm not expecting it to change. I understand the engineering behind it all and why it must sound the way it does. But the thread is just for discussion, not solving all the problems of the world. F1 is what it is and I'm enjoying the season and the new cars, despite some areas that could have been regulated differently. |
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It rather sad that so much focus seems to be put on the sound of the new cars, when the technology being used it just amazing don't you think ! And it's only the beginning ... What brilliant minds these engineers have .. |
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I still remember when the Matra-Simcas got to 13k - wow. But I think, more importantly, that it has been way too long that the engines were all the same sound - all V10, V8, V6. I started with V6, V12, V8, I4, H16 at one time, now you can barely tell one make from the other. Too much spec! |
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As noted above the v8 engines were just loud and unpleasant after a while. That said they were what they were - same for the turbo motors. It makes my blood run cold when I hear about plans to artificially make them louder. We'll never have the 22k rpm v10's again, so lets move on. Its about time F1 embraced hybrid technology - the more the better I say. If you want loud go to a NASCAR race, if you want to see the fastest high tech race cars go to an F1 race. F1 is more than just the sound for goodness sake.
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I think that it's generally agreed that the engines aren't loud enough. I do like their sound - but it just would be nice to hear the distinctive sound of the turbo engines - especially the "whoosh" from the wastegate!
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OK, so here we are a few races into the season, and things appear to have gone a bit quiet (pun intended) in this thread.
To me, the PU's are sounding a bit louder now on TV to a level which I feel is perfectly acceptable, as I can still hear the other sounds as well as the engine. Presumably this is because the TV companies have altered the microphones to suit the quieter systems as opposed to leaving them how they were with the ear-splitting V8's? During the BBC coverage of the race yesterday, the pits reporter Tom Clarkson tried to do a piece from the end of the pit lane when cars were setting off to join the grid. There certainly didn't appear to ba a lack of sound from where he was standing! |
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12 May 2014, 13:43 (Ref:3405389) | #346 | ||
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5 races in and I have to admit even though I complained about the sound (really lack of) at the beginning, I don't think about it when I'm watching the race now. Not once during Spain did I think "the cars are too quiet". For me, i've gotten to the stage where I've accepted this is what these F1 cars sound like, and as long as the racing is there then current sound isn't an issue
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I think they look alright the cars, especially the Mercedes and Red Bull.
You always get used to them. If they were glued to the track with blown diffusers, weedy engines and outrageous downforce I'd probably think differently mind you. |
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Force India's Bob Fernley thinks F1 should embrace the new engine sound.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113937 |
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The FIA are to use sound enginners to analyse the sound produced from the modified Mercdes exhaust.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113945 The interesting bit is the modified exhaust does not conform to the currert regs. Now I wonder what loopholes that could open up. |
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