Mattiacci gone!

doug911 · 24 Nov 2014, 12:17 (Ref:3478188)

No big surprise....

http://www.espn.co.uk/ferrari/motors...ry/185685.html

steve_r · 24 Nov 2014, 12:26 (Ref:3478191)

No Wins
Best driver gone
New driver brought in at huge expense, who has just been comprehensively outperformed by his teammate.
Raikonnen has never got a handle on the car, but is contracted for another season.
Axing of two team principals within a season
Limitied scope to improve their underpowered engine

It's not looking good.

F1Pete · 24 Nov 2014, 12:41 (Ref:3478194)

Hmmmmm....the fall of the Roman empire for the second time. I liked Mattiaccii. I thought he was bringing in new fresh ideas and structure. Results don't happen over night.

Paradise City · 24 Nov 2014, 12:44 (Ref:3478196)

Well, it is a surprise. You'd think they'd have learnt from the dizzying team boss merry-go round that hammered the team around the early 90's. And you can't expect a new guy to arrive and whip a chaotic team into shape with one tap of the magic hat. That stuff takes time. That said I always suspected this guy was a stop gap because they just couldn't find anyone suitable to take on the task.

djinvicta · 24 Nov 2014, 12:51 (Ref:3478199)

He was a stop gap, till Brawn returns....

**bella** · 24 Nov 2014, 13:05 (Ref:3478201)

maybe they should be tapping up the caterham administrator to see if he fancies a go next

JacobP · 24 Nov 2014, 13:33 (Ref:3478212)

I am ****ed off. Just when we learn how to spell the new principal's name, they fired him again.

doug911 · 24 Nov 2014, 13:44 (Ref:3478216)

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Originally Posted by djinvicta

He was a stop gap, till Brawn returns....

With a UK engineering base??

chillibowl · 24 Nov 2014, 13:58 (Ref:3478217)

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Originally Posted by JacobP

I am ****ed off. Just when we learn how to spell the new principal's name, they fired him again.

Lol.

Imo this choice only makes sense in so much that it appeals to the sponsors, namely Philip Morris, who must be at this point questioning their involvement in the sport...I mean if F1 doesn't care about young people then what's the point of spending many millions on subliminal and coded messages to convince young people to start smoking when young people are not even watching?

**bella** · 24 Nov 2014, 14:04 (Ref:3478218)

see, at this point you have to have a fairly long memory/be of a certain age to even remember cigarette sponsorship in f1 and associate philip morris with ferrari. i would imagine to some of the younger fans in their early to mid 20s it comes as a shock to see ferraris on marlboro boards in monaco during the gp for example.

wolfhound · 24 Nov 2014, 14:24 (Ref:3478225)

Is this the start of a new revolving door program at Ferrari. How log before a former world champion is shown the door?

**GTRMagic** · 24 Nov 2014, 14:48 (Ref:3478237)

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Originally Posted by bella

maybe they should be tapping up the caterham administrator to see if he fancies a go next

Top job by Mr O'Connell to source engines, gearboxes, freight, airfares, tyres, technogumbies, drivers and the money to pay for it all!

He might be more useful in his smaller team, his resourcefulness keeping the team on the road, than a billion dollar juggernaut with more managers and bosses and staff that you could ever meet & get to know in a lifetime!

The Ferrari change is not a surprise... the rubbish around Mr Alonso's exit has been amateur hour... and it seems a substantial break fee was paid by Ferrari too... with the new fella earning more than the bloke they replaced

The payout could likely have run Caterham for a whole year

chillibowl · 24 Nov 2014, 17:29 (Ref:3478275)

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Originally Posted by bella

see, at this point you have to have a fairly long memory/be of a certain age to even remember cigarette sponsorship in f1 and associate philip morris with ferrari.

yeah it really is staggering how quickly smoking became marginalized in western life and culture but also still shocking just how pervasive it is.

im still perplexed by how they have turned there F1 advertising platform into direct sales to children every time i see Ferrari LEGO kits or when i look on their website and see how much stuff in Marlboro livery they sell for kids.

unknown how much of this Arrivabene is responsible for this but evil genius springs to mind

TrapezeArtist · 24 Nov 2014, 23:10 (Ref:3478409)

"... we need a person with a thorough understanding not just of Ferrari but also of the governance mechanisms and requirements of the sport ..."

Shame they didn't think of that in April when they thought they needed a car salesman from that place where they think whizzing round in giddy circles is motor racing.

But not to worry; I enjoy Ferrari when they're at their Keystone Cops best.

wnut · 25 Nov 2014, 00:52 (Ref:3478424)

They really needed to bring Stefano Dominecali back, he may be able to do a half decent job without Monte De Gorgenzola running interference.

Quite what they are thinking replacing a car salesman with a tobacconist, who knows.

What Vettel was thinking when he signed for Ferrari, I just don't know!

Paulaweybridge · 25 Nov 2014, 01:35 (Ref:3478433)

I suspect he knows something that we don't ..

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Originally Posted by wnut

What Vettel was thinking when he signed for Ferrari, I just don't know!

Armco Bender · 25 Nov 2014, 01:59 (Ref:3478435)

This thread needs a theme song.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWqKPWO5T4o

F J Nedos · 25 Nov 2014, 02:21 (Ref:3478438)

What about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M

F1Pete · 25 Nov 2014, 03:55 (Ref:3478452)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

Is this the start of a new revolving door program at Ferrari. How long before a former world champion is shown the door?

Hmmmm....Vettel hasn't technically arrived in through that door yet.

Teretonga · 25 Nov 2014, 04:05 (Ref:3478453)

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Originally Posted by Armco Bender

This thread needs a theme song.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWqKPWO5T4o

How about Adele....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCya1yiFFP4

wolfhound · 25 Nov 2014, 08:25 (Ref:3478493)

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Originally Posted by Armco Bender

This thread needs a theme song.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWqKPWO5T4o

Just checked this link out and got a Toyota advert!

steve_r · 25 Nov 2014, 09:08 (Ref:3478514)

Vettel is trying to replicate what Schumacher did. Fair play, he could have stuck with Red Bull which would have been the easy choice.

Only time will tell if this is a Hamilton to Mercedes or a Schumacher to Ferrari decision, or alternatively a Villeneuve to BAR decision...

Tourer · 25 Nov 2014, 09:55 (Ref:3478523)

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Originally Posted by Teretonga

How about Adele....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCya1yiFFP4

Or Keystone Cops - seems about right just now: http://youtu.be/_evKyDulkDA

Tourer · 25 Nov 2014, 10:00 (Ref:3478526)

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Originally Posted by steve_r

Vettel is trying to replicate what Schumacher did. Fair play, he could have stuck with Red Bull which would have been the easy choice.

Only time will tell if this is a Hamilton to Mercedes or a Schumacher to Ferrari decision, or alternatively a Villeneuve to BAR decision...

Agree, right not it's easy to think that Ferrari are slipping back into their pre-Schumi/Brawn/Todt/Byrne malaise and running faster and faster with one foot nailed to the floor.

However, it may just be that Arrivabene/Vettel/Key deliver the goods. Sometimes you've got to go through a few combinations to hit on the sweet spot.

Can't help feeling that Luca moving on MAY just ease some of the posturing and political stuff.

Let's see - whichever way it goes, it's likely to be entertaining!

**Born Racer** · 25 Nov 2014, 10:02 (Ref:3478528)

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Originally Posted by wnut

What Vettel was thinking when he signed for Ferrari, I just don't know!

Good Italian food.

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Originally Posted by wnut

Quite what they are thinking replacing a car salesman with a tobacconist, who knows.

Nope, can't answer that one.