Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition - Page 156

Beetle · 11 Sep 2013, 19:58 (Ref:3302322)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

According to this interview with E-I today the P1 project has been parked for now. They needed a confirmed customer to run the car before pushing onwards.

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...nce-20543.html

I like the ADESS look, but we do not need any more LMP2 cars!! They'll run out of numbers and that'll give Level 5 an excuse to run #055195552 or whatever at Le Mans!

New cars are always great, but I was hoping for the LMP1 program to be a success. Any recent news on the Perrin project?

And what's the debate between ADESS and Lotus? I haven't been following it closely...

CTD · 11 Sep 2013, 20:02 (Ref:3302325)

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Originally Posted by Beetle

And what's the debate between ADESS and Lotus? I haven't been following it closely...

It's what happened at Le Mans

The Badger · 12 Sep 2013, 08:14 (Ref:3302571)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Massa has been sacked in favor of Kimi, but anyway... When I saw that Adess lmp, I had this car come to my mind

Naa , that's a Cadillac Coupe !!!

The Badger · 12 Sep 2013, 08:18 (Ref:3302574)

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Originally Posted by Beetle

I like the ADESS look, but we do not need any more LMP2 cars!!

Oh yes we do ..... too many Oreca's in the field . Variety is the spice of life plus it would also be a welcome addition to USCR .

HORNDAWG · 12 Sep 2013, 15:50 (Ref:3302814)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Oh yes we do ..... too many Oreca's in the field . Variety is the spice of life plus it would also be a welcome addition to USCR .

Yep, it would be nice to have some in the USCR.

L.P.

avvelenamento · 12 Sep 2013, 15:52 (Ref:3302815)

Yeah variety is the spice of life, but spice up our lives with more lmp1 and less lmp2 would be better, no?

carsten66 · 12 Sep 2013, 16:03 (Ref:3302828)

We do have variety in LMP2, it's simply the preferred choice of the teams...

Dario911 · 12 Sep 2013, 16:09 (Ref:3302832)

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Originally Posted by carsten66

We do have variety in LMP2, it's simply the preferred choice of the teams...

Due to costs reasons... It was better when people like Jean Rondeau had their chance to win (and we know he did it!) with a self-made car! Good times...

**Aysedasi** · 12 Sep 2013, 17:43 (Ref:3302890)

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Originally Posted by carsten66

We do have variety in LMP2, it's simply the preferred choice of the teams...

Providing they produce good close racing, I'm not so fussed about LMP2 variety. I'd like to see more lids on the cars though......

HORNDAWG · 12 Sep 2013, 17:45 (Ref:3302892)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Providing they produce good close racing, I'm not so fussed about LMP2 variety. I'd like to see more lids on the cars though......

Maybe the 2016 rule-set will require it.

L.P.

**Aysedasi** · 12 Sep 2013, 17:49 (Ref:3302895)

Yep, if only that could be legislated for! Close racing and lids!

GT6 · 12 Sep 2013, 20:39 (Ref:3302985)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Yep, if only that could be legislated for! Close racing and lids!

NO No NO

Open cars please no tin top regulations, or at lest the option, I might own an estate car for taking everything down to Le mans but will always own at lest one soft top and always think open cars look better than closed once.
I think anyone that believes we need more rules banning anything needs to think carefully as the next change might ban something they like

Maelochs · 12 Sep 2013, 23:00 (Ref:3303050)

There is no way to legislate close racing. There shouldn't be, either.

Legislating the shape of the car too precisely will lead to a field of clones, but not necessarily to close racing.

Look at the last Rolex race: Jordan Taylor drive away from the field by 17 seconds, a caution, opened a ten-second gap, next yellow, opened a 2.6 second gap in a couple laps. Without the cautions he might have lapped the field.

Nealry identical cars, all with roofs, and one car was quick enough to lap the Entire rest of the field, not just the back-markers.

That's okay, too---that happens sometimes in real racing.

NASCAR would have found a hot-dog wrapper, or a driver would have tossed a little foam from the roll-cage padding. Say what you will about Rolex, but the "phantom debris" cautions pretty much stopped two seasons ago.

Spyderman · 13 Sep 2013, 05:45 (Ref:3303163)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

There is no way to legislate close racing. There shouldn't be, either.

Legislating the shape of the car too precisely will lead to a field of clones, but not necessarily to close racing.

Could not agree more! Unfortunately we live in an age where people think that legislation will solve all issues. It more often than not does the exact opposite. Freedom is a much better way to go, although we have to be prepared to accept some of the drawbacks.

Samoan Attorney · 13 Sep 2013, 06:59 (Ref:3303181)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Providing they produce good close racing, I'm not so fussed about LMP2 variety. I'd like to see more lids on the cars though......

Why?

FstrthnU · 13 Sep 2013, 15:45 (Ref:3303426)

http://www.racer.com/adess-puts-lmp1...rticle/311537/

Looks like the ADESS LMP1 coupe (separate from the Lotus T128 LMP1) will be put on hold to concentrate on the ADESS LMP2

HORNDAWG · 13 Sep 2013, 15:56 (Ref:3303434)

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Originally Posted by GT6

NO No NO

Open cars please no tin top regulations, or at lest the option, I might own an estate car for taking everything down to Le mans but will always own at lest one soft top and always think open cars look better than closed once.
I think anyone that believes we need more rules banning anything needs to think carefully as the next change might ban something they like

So, P-1s are now tin tops?

L.P.

**Aysedasi** · 13 Sep 2013, 17:27 (Ref:3303474)

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Originally Posted by GT6

NO No NO

Open cars please no tin top regulations, or at lest the option, I might own an estate car for taking everything down to Le mans but will always own at lest one soft top and always think open cars look better than closed once.
I think anyone that believes we need more rules banning anything needs to think carefully as the next change might ban something they like

I didn't say ban open cars - I just want to see more coupes.

**Aysedasi** · 13 Sep 2013, 17:28 (Ref:3303477)

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Originally Posted by Samoan Attorney

Why?

Er, because I prefer closed prototypes?

Christian Mogami · 13 Sep 2013, 17:33 (Ref:3303479)

The OAK P1 project has a major money problem(they need it to build the car and get a engine contract) Motorsports-Total

templer · 13 Sep 2013, 19:17 (Ref:3303508)

Really sad news that arrived the last weeks. Many projects were annouced in the past and it looked like that the P1 would
have a good mix of private cars and works cars and now Dome didn't find any customer, so did Adess and now OAK. All three have shown their constructor potential in the past. Still too less money in the game for some good private team/chassis combinations.
A shame that the WEC is still far away from the good old and glory days of sports prototype racing like the Group C or the BPR-series

TF110 · 13 Sep 2013, 19:25 (Ref:3303513)

I think the series needs more limelight. That would bring out more interest. But how do you do that with limited competition at the top level? Thats why I hope Rebellion have good success with their car. This may open up interest if others see its possible to win against factory teams.

**skycafe** · 13 Sep 2013, 19:36 (Ref:3303517)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Thats why I hope Rebellion have good success with their car. This may open up interest if others see its possible to win against factory teams.

What is your hope for success for Rebellion? At this point they are the best non-factory team at most races. I don't see them winning unless a total meltdown happened to Toyota and Audi, and that meltdown would probably garner more publicity then Rebellion winning.

TF110 · 13 Sep 2013, 19:48 (Ref:3303529)

My hope is their hope. To challenge for overall wins. No more favorable rules for a specific fuel. The team believes they have a good chance with the new rules. And that should be the case.

**skycafe** · 13 Sep 2013, 19:51 (Ref:3303531)

Ok, cool. I have high hopes they get rewarded for their efforts and expense.

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