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17 Jun 2013, 16:42 (Ref:3263894) | #1 | |
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Ford Escort MK1 Roll Cage FIA HTP
Cheers Guys!
I have a question regarding my plans building up my 1300 Sport Escort for Regularity Rallyes. I do know that actually owning the FIA regularity papers would give me the possibility to participate @ Regularity Rallyes organized by the FIA. Anyway I was also thinking about building it up for the FIA HTP therfore I ordered the Homologation Sheets. Now, my actual Problem is following: I actually do not understand what the FIA attachments K and J mean in this context. I surely know, the car would be homologated according to K (as it was built in 1973. ) Furthermore I am planning to build in a OMP, which is built according to attachment J. I talked to the guys from HEIGO, also for the Roll Cage, and they told me, they could build me a Cage for K or for J. As from what I read, for the Regularity Passport, I actually do not Need a Roll Cage, so i think having it homologated would not be necessary. But instead, if i wanted to build the Escort up to FIA Homologation Group 1, i indeed would Need a homologated Cage. Now, what I would like to know: For obtaining the FIA HTP, do I Need a Cage built up according to attachment K or would a Cage built up according to J also ok? Can anybody tell me the difference of These two attachment Groups. Thank your VERY much for your answers Best regards Motorheadache |
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17 Jun 2013, 17:26 (Ref:3263912) | #2 | ||
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I just went through all this misery with a Gp2 RS1600 build for an FIA HTP. The HTP general regs require the Mk1 Escort rollcage only touch the bodyshell at 6 points and the rear legs have to be mounted to the inner wheel arches (cannot touch the shock turrets like a Mk2 if turrets are fitted). What is more confusing is that the HRCR HVIF allows 14 points of contact so my cage is a Custom cages job with bolt/tab contacts in 8 additional places that can be removed for FIA events.
http://www.customcages.co.uk/Rollcag...&type=Historic |
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17 Jun 2013, 17:42 (Ref:3263918) | #3 | |
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thank you very much.
I found an Attachment J new built OMP Roll Cage, which touches the Car a 6 Points. It clearly has a FIA admittance. So you think It would be possible to build in a Cage like that and getting the HTP? Even if the Cage is built up according to J and the cars are built up according attachment K? Or am I understanding sth. completely different? Cheers |
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17 Jun 2013, 17:44 (Ref:3263919) | #4 | ||
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17 Jun 2013, 17:53 (Ref:3263923) | #5 | |
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ok,
thank you! Just saw, i can't log in with my E-Mail adress. Anyway, I seem to know what Problem you're talking about. Unfortunately, even if it might Sound ridiculous, my question is, if I can build in a roll Cage, which is built up to J conformance, even if I have a car homologated to attachment k. Can anybody please tell me what the difference between those two attachments is, please? Thanks |
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17 Jun 2013, 18:34 (Ref:3263938) | #6 | ||
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Which section of App. J are you referring to?
This is the list: http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public...penform&lang=a |
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18 Jun 2013, 19:50 (Ref:3264507) | #7 | |
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OK!
After having read your message, I talked to the ones in town, who do the FIA HTP work And they told me what I wanted to know^^. They told me how to read the Appendix K properly, and now I know, how I'll have to have built a proper save Escort Cage! I'll have the car homologated to Period G2, as a "normal" touring car T. The car is left pretty original, apart from other carburettors (Weber 40 DCOE), and other suspensions (from Bilstein), so I think getting the HTP won't cause me big Problems. As you said, the Cage will have 2 diagonal bars (with belt), and also 2 door bars on each side. As I am not from the UK and not a native Speaker, I'd be verry interested in knowing what you mean with "the Roof" and with the b-pillar Tabs. thank you very much Best regards |
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19 Jun 2013, 11:18 (Ref:3264794) | #8 | ||
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You want a diagonal bar over the driver/co-driver heads (the roof).
You want a bar under the dashboard with a heavy plate to mount the steering column on, this will also lower the steering column 20mm for better driving position. The rollcage cannot touch the bodyshell anywhere except the 6 points on the floor. Make sure you leave room on the rear rollcage legs to fit damper turrets at a later date without cutting the cage. If you send me an e-mail I'll send some pictures greg @ barbados rally carnival dot com |
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