Defacing Bathurst History - Digital Tobacco Sponsorship Removal - Page 6

**GTRMagic** · 3 Oct 2013, 08:57 (Ref:3312182)

V8Supercar is doing it on its website too...

Story Here

Dazz · 3 Oct 2013, 09:17 (Ref:3312191)

This is seriously pathetic, graphically rewriting history, what has this country come too!

sizzle · 3 Oct 2013, 12:19 (Ref:3312304)

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Originally Posted by Dazz

This is seriously pathetic, graphically rewriting history, what has this country come too!

Welcome to Nanny central. Wait till they ban alcohol advertising as well.

Paradise City · 3 Oct 2013, 12:58 (Ref:3312327)

I do hope there will be a booming trade in underground pics. Cram facebook with them or wherever.

Juarez Jed · 3 Oct 2013, 23:10 (Ref:3312558)

Will be interesting to see how they cover the Muscle Car Masters on 7mate.....all the cars there ran with their traditional ciggie packet warpaint with no problems.
As we have discussed before, this rewriting of history is not the law, it is an over-reaction by someone who is either part of the anti-tobacco lobby or unjustly scared of them.

eduardo1 · 4 Oct 2013, 00:48 (Ref:3312573)

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Originally Posted by Juarez Jed

Will be interesting to see how they cover the Muscle Car Masters on 7mate.....all the cars there ran with their traditional ciggie packet warpaint with no problems.
As we have discussed before, this rewriting of history is not the law, it is an over-reaction by someone who is either part of the anti-tobacco lobby or unjustly scared of them.

Given the recent judgement where a TV news broadcast was fined for showing branded cigarette packs in a story about cigarette packs, it's no wonder that they would rather not take the risk.

I think it's wrong and absurd that it's got to this point, but I understand why organisations don't want to take the risk.

**GTRMagic** · 4 Oct 2013, 03:11 (Ref:3312598)

Having just watched Rush, there are more than plenty of Marlboro logos and a few John Player Special brandings through the whole film...

No thought police at my local cinema deciding I wasnt allowed to see them

yap · 4 Oct 2013, 05:39 (Ref:3312613)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Having just watched Rush, there are more than plenty of Marlboro logos and a few John Player Special brandings through the whole film...

No thought police at my local cinema deciding I wasnt allowed to see them

Did you feel like buying a packet of Marlboro on the way home though ?

**GTRMagic** · 4 Oct 2013, 05:59 (Ref:3312615)

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Originally Posted by yap

Did you feel like buying a packet of Marlboro on the way home though ?

No..

Funny that

bluesport · 4 Oct 2013, 06:13 (Ref:3312616)

Blot it out, blot it all out, cigs, alcohol, maccas, KFC.........should have been done fifty years ago, some of you morons don't know whats good for you.

Razor · 4 Oct 2013, 06:55 (Ref:3312622)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

No thought police at my local cinema deciding I wasnt allowed to see them

So it wasn't a cold bright day in April after all.

Dazz · 4 Oct 2013, 06:56 (Ref:3312624)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

Blot it out, blot it all out, cigs, alcohol, maccas, KFC.........should have been done fifty years ago, some of you morons don't know whats good for you.

Some would say promoting speeding by motor racing, is another of the big killers, so you have to be really careful how far you take taking away peoples rights to make decisions about products that are as far as I know legal!

By the way I don't smoke and couldn't care if it was banned, very very rarely drink any alcohol (christmas party maybe), don't particulkarly like KFC or Maccas, BUT I don't see what digitally altering the past achieves.

If it can be proven without a doubt that a bit of advertising on some old race cars makes people take up smoking then "maybe" there is a case. To me this is just unnecessary and ridiculous.

Go Harder. · 4 Oct 2013, 07:22 (Ref:3312629)

I have no problem with the ban on tobacco advertising, but censoring history, in part or in full, should be illegal. What happened happened and to try and tell the story any other way/withholding information is unjust imo.

eduardo1 · 4 Oct 2013, 07:33 (Ref:3312636)

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Originally Posted by Go Harder.

I have no problem with the ban on tobacco advertising, but censoring history, in part or in full, should be illegal. What happened happened and to try and tell the story any other way/withholding information is unjust imo.

Summed up perfectly.

Umai Naa · 4 Oct 2013, 07:36 (Ref:3312638)

Define history.

Advertising can be considered as history, considering that the ad was prepared before you saw it

To be honest with you, I don't need to look at an old Formula 1 car to help with my decision to buy a packet of lung darts.

Razor · 4 Oct 2013, 07:43 (Ref:3312641)

Someone pass me a light

Go Harder. · 4 Oct 2013, 07:53 (Ref:3312643)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Define history.

Advertising can be considered as history, considering that the ad was prepared before you saw it

To be honest with you, I don't need to look at an old Formula 1 car to help with my decision to buy a packet of lung darts.

In this case what happened under previous regulations (re tobacco advertising) is history.

TimRTC · 4 Oct 2013, 08:43 (Ref:3312657)

Funny to think that as a kid I had F1 curtains covered in cars carrying the Marlboro logos and no-one thought it was wrong. It certainly never encouraged me to smoke.

I wonder what will happen when "they" realise that Red Bull and Monster are probably as harmful to children as smoking is - imagine the amount of censorship required then. Discussing Vettel's world championships driving for Infiniti-Renault is just wrong.

one five five · 4 Oct 2013, 10:17 (Ref:3312688)

I walked around Sydney last weekend with a shirt covered in a massive "Marlboro" logo.......how long before the Police tell me to take it off?

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Originally Posted by eduardo1

Given the recent judgement where a TV news broadcast was fined for showing branded cigarette packs in a story about cigarette packs, it's no wonder that they would rather not take the risk.

Yet turn it onto 7mate of an afternoon and we are greeting with tonnes of F1, WRC, 500cc etc.. races with totally un-blurred cigarette logos...

When Channel 9 show the odd clip of past Rugby League games on their various shows, the old "Winfield Cup" logo's are never blurred out.

Is it perhaps a directive from V8Supercars themselves, rather than Ch7? (Given that it is V8Supercar TV that does the broadcasts?)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

Blot it out, blot it all out, cigs, alcohol, maccas, KFC.........should have been done fifty years ago, some of you morons don't know whats good for you.

**GTRMagic** · 4 Oct 2013, 23:36 (Ref:3312963)

At least Nissan seems to be normal on the issue of history... certainly an improvement over their earlier work...

bluesport · 5 Oct 2013, 07:32 (Ref:3313065)

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Originally Posted by one five five

I walked around Sydney last weekend with a shirt covered in a massive "Marlboro" logo.......how long before the Police tell me to take it off?

Yet turn it onto 7mate of an afternoon and we are greeting with tonnes of F1, WRC, 500cc etc.. races with totally un-blurred cigarette logos...

When Channel 9 show the odd clip of past Rugby League games on their various shows, the old "Winfield Cup" logo's are never blurred out.

Is it perhaps a directive from V8Supercars themselves, rather than Ch7? (Given that it is V8Supercar TV that does the broadcasts?)

Is there something wrong with your eyes?

eduardo1 · 7 Oct 2013, 21:53 (Ref:3314309)

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Originally Posted by one five five

I walked around Sydney last weekend with a shirt covered in a massive "Marlboro" logo.......how long before the Police tell me to take it off?

Yet turn it onto 7mate of an afternoon and we are greeting with tonnes of F1, WRC, 500cc etc.. races with totally un-blurred cigarette logos...

When Channel 9 show the odd clip of past Rugby League games on their various shows, the old "Winfield Cup" logo's are never blurred out.

Is it perhaps a directive from V8Supercars themselves, rather than Ch7? (Given that it is V8Supercar TV that does the broadcasts?)

It's not just V8s now. There was a rugby league program on the weekend about Wally Lewis and Mal Meninga - only watched a few mins of it - and the cigarette boardings around grounds from historical footage were all blurred out.

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