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Old 21 Apr 2007, 12:08 (Ref:1896963)   #26
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Hazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
No live qualifying on TV, but from live timing - things are looking weird!

Firstly, di Resta's in the top 8 and therefore our highest Brit before the last segment. Stoddart is 2nd, so she's outqualified Carroll, Paffett & Green!

Mercedes on the whole looking dodgy, I only see Hakkinen & Spengler in the top 8 in the new shape cars, whereas Audi is faring far better.

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Old 21 Apr 2007, 12:18 (Ref:1896967)   #27
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I believe di Resta's just qualified 3rd? Spengler on pole from Tomczyk.

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Old 21 Apr 2007, 12:24 (Ref:1896968)   #28
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I'll say Hazard, pretty good day for di Resta, and la Rosa - was that a steering rack problem in the final round (my German's not so good)? What happened to Green and Schneider.....yikes! Worth noting, Ekström actually had the fastest lap in 2nd qualifying, I think.
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Old 21 Apr 2007, 12:45 (Ref:1896978)   #29
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DTM Hockenheim Grid (Beta)

1 - Bruno Spengler [2] - HWA AG Mercedes - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:34.369

2 - Martin Tomczyk [4] - Team Abt Sportsline - Audi A4 DTM - 1:34.446


3 - Paul di Resta [19] - Persson Motorsport - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:34.449

4 - Mattias Ekström [3] - Team Abt Sportsline - Audi A4 DTM - 1:34.601


5 - Tom Kristensen [7] - Team Abt Sportsline - Audi A4 DTM - 1:34.681

6 - Timo Scheider [8] - Team Abt Sportsline - Audi A4 DTM - 1:34.686


7 - Mika Häkkinen [6] - HWA AG Mercedes - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:34.774

8 - Daniel la Rosa [15] - Mucke Motorsport - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 0:00.000


9 - Bernd Schneider [1] - HWA AG Mercedes - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:34.877

10 - Alexandros Margaritis [10] - Persson Motorsport - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:34.895


11 - Mike Rockenfeller [11] - Team Rosberg - Audi A4 DTM - 1:34.978

12 - Susie Stoddart [14] - Mucke Motorsport - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:35.107


13 - Jamie Green [5] - HWA AG Mercedes - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:35.180

14 - Gary Paffett [9] - Persson Motorsport - AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:35.369


15 - Christian Abt [16] - Team Phoenix - Audi A4 DTM - 1:35.407

16 - Mathias Lauda [18] - Mucke Motorsport - AMG Mercedes C-Klasse - 1:35.411


17 - Adam Carroll [20] - Futurecom TME - Audi A4 DTM - 1:35.466

18 - Alexandre Premat [17] - Team Phoenix - Audi A4 DTM - 1:35.507


19 - Lucas Luhr [12] - Team Rosberg - Audi A4 DTM - 1:35.559

20 - Vanina Ickx [21] - Futurecom TME - Audi A4 DTM - 1:36.691

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Old 21 Apr 2007, 12:57 (Ref:1896980)   #30
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That's a terrific look at the "startaufstellung" Hazard, thanks. Seems there's just a few bugs still to be worked out on a some of those cars. Hopefully it adds some real spice in the race tomorrow.

Paul di Resta third in a 2005 car.....wonderful.
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Old 21 Apr 2007, 12:59 (Ref:1896982)   #31
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That's a terrific look at the "startaufstellung" Hazard, thanks. Seems there's just a few bugs still to be worked out on a some of those cars. Hopefully it adds some real spice in the race tomorrow.

Paul di Resta third in a 2005 car.....amazing.
I wanted to double check that, as I'm not sure where I got the 2005 bit from. Plus some of the lines were running over so I've taken that out.

If it's a 2005 car, indeed - incredible. It might be an '06 though as team mates Paffett & Margaritis are using.

Rest works I think.

Edit: Found where I got it, so yes - it is a 2005 car!
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Old 21 Apr 2007, 13:27 (Ref:1896991)   #32
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No surprise. Widely expected due to the huge weight advantage 05 cars have this year.
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Old 21 Apr 2007, 13:32 (Ref:1896996)   #33
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No surprise. Widely expected due to the huge weight advantage 05 cars have this year.
Is Vanina really that bad?
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Old 21 Apr 2007, 13:45 (Ref:1897001)   #34
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If all the 05's were higher-up on the grid Alfa Fan, I'd agree with you. Still lots of bugs to be worked-out up and down the grid, but they obviously found a sweet spot with the car, that others didn't, and di Resta put in a great lap.
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Old 21 Apr 2007, 16:57 (Ref:1897115)   #35
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I wanted to double check that, as I'm not sure where I got the 2005 bit from.

Edit: Found where I got it, so yes - it is a 2005 car!
Apparently it's unanimous Hazard.
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For the first time in DTM history, a two-year old car made it into the final qualifying heat.
Should make for an interesting race tomorrow. Where's the confounded live video stream?
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Old 21 Apr 2007, 19:04 (Ref:1897200)   #36
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Disappointed Motors TV didn't show qualifying; it isn't as if they had a clashing event. Still with a good mix in the top 10 it looks as if we're in for a close season. Great performance by di Resta; and Carroll just a tenth off Paffett.
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Old 21 Apr 2007, 20:42 (Ref:1897250)   #37
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No surprise. Widely expected due to the huge weight advantage 05 cars have this year.
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Hey is live timing not working? Or, just not up yet?
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Old 22 Apr 2007, 13:22 (Ref:1897673)   #39
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Ekström won. 2. Tomczyk 3. Spengler
Huge crash in L1. Kristensen, Premat, Stoddard and Carroll not at restart.
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Don't know if I should've had "spoilers" on the thread title or not.

Boy, Mercedes' has some work to do on their 07's.....yikes!
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Old 22 Apr 2007, 13:27 (Ref:1897678)   #41
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Rather odd race - shortened, insane strategies. Abt Audi almost took a 1-2-3 from nowhere, when it looked like di Resta and Spengler would reign. Strange.

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PosDriverNoTeamCarClassTime
1Mattias Ekström3Team Abt SportslineAudi A4 DTM2007Running
2Martin Tomczyk4Team Abt SportslineAudi A4 DTM2007Running
3Bruno Spengler2HWA AG MercedesAMG Mercedes C-Klasse2007Running
4Daniel la Rosa15Mucke MotorsportAMG Mercedes C-Klasse2006Running
5Alexandros Margaritis10Persson MotorsportAMG Mercedes C-Klasse2006Running
6Paul di Resta19Persson MotorsportAMG Mercedes C-Klasse2005Running
7Jamie Green5HWA AG MercedesAMG Mercedes C-Klasse2007Running
8Bernd Schneider1HWA AG MercedesAMG Mercedes C-Klasse2007Running
9Gary Paffett9Persson MotorsportAMG-Mercedes C-Klasse2006Running
10Timo Scheider8Team Abt SportslineAudi A4 DTM2007Running
11Mika Häkkinen6HWA AG MercedesAMG Mercedes C-Klasse2007Running
12Lucas Luhr12Team RosbergAudi A4 DTM2006Running
13Mike Rockenfeller11Team RosbergAudi A4 DTM2006Running
14Mathias Lauda18Mucke MotorsportAMG Mercedes C-Klasse2006Running
15Vanina Ickx21Futurecom TMEAudi A4 DTM2005Running
16Christian Abt16Team PhoenixAudi A4 DTM2006DNF
17Tom Kristensen7Team Abt SportslineAudi A4 DTM2007DNF
18Susie Stoddart14Mucke MotorsportAMG Mercedes C-Klasse2005DNF
19Alexandre Premat17Team PhoenixAudi A4 DTM2006DNF
20Adam Carroll20Futurecom TMEAudi A4 DTM2005DNF

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Old 22 Apr 2007, 13:36 (Ref:1897685)   #42
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Yes, where the hell did Ekstrom and Tomczyk come from ! I too thought it'd end up as a Spengler - Di Resta finish.

Nasty accident at the start, seems Kristensen at least was taken off to hospital, although he was apparently OK, hopefully just for some precautionary scans.
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Damn... just got home. missed it

I'll have to wait for the replay tonight i guess...
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And whilst I remember, whats this of Carlton Kirby making out that Abt is some sort of bully ? From where I saw it, a Mercedes (Schneider I think) banged into him which no doubt broke his suspension.
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And whilst I remember, whats this of Carlton Kirby making out that Abt is some sort of bully ? From where I saw it, a Mercedes (Schneider I think) banged into him which no doubt broke his suspension.
Didn't Abt take out Jamie Green in one race last year? Norisring?
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He didn't take him out I don't think but he certainly....contributed.
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That was a very nasty crash.


The race itself was nothing special.

Dissapointing result for Green, Hakkinen and Schneider. They have a lot work to do.
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Spengler gets 50 seconds penalty for contact with Scheider. The Canadian drops to 14th.

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Old 22 Apr 2007, 17:35 (Ref:1897825)   #49
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I think Audi were a little lucky today as Di Resta probably would've won if it wasn't for having a terrible strategy. I'm amazed that Kristensen wasn't seriously injured after that considering it was side on.
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Just found the big shunt on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy-jn5xlfYA
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