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“We’re trying to close the doors without embarrassing ourselves, the France family and embarrassing (the) Grand American Series,” he said in the deposition. “There is no money. There is no purse. There’s nothing.” |
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One GTD manufacturer is livid about the BoP, they feel IMSA was afraid of their car so "BoP'ed the hell out of it". Another non-Porsche GTD entrant has taken delivery of a GT3 spec car, possibly to try out PWC (not Turner).
GTLM is a mess quietly. I know of one team not willing to go on the record with their thoughts but not happy. Porsche was lobbied hard to run the 991s in GTLM and is looking for "a return on its' investment". Could that be the reason for the very favourable BoP at Daytona? And the baffling behaviour by IMSA at Sebring? Apparently they had an "observer" stationed in race control at Sebring for the race(!). A GTLM withdrawal would be unfortunate but maybe that slap in the face is what the series needs to understand how serious things are. One person I was speaking to said there are a lot of rumours and there is a lot of misinformation, especially on the 'net, but the tone is very negative - amongst both teams and fans. Not all the rumours are true but where there is smoke there is fire and there is certainly a ton of fuel. Last edited by Canada ALMS fan; 1 Apr 2014 at 21:25. |
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I'm guessing said GTD manufacture is Audi.
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1 Apr 2014, 21:24 (Ref:3387584) | #2879 | ||
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If I was Derrick Walker I would take a walk from the Falken transporter at Long Beach down to John Doonan and go for a stroll though the Indycar paddock. With manufacturer specific body kits coming for 2015 that could just be a better investment for Mazda.
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However, after running the PWC weekend I can't properly articulate how happy I am that my money is there and not Tudor this season. I still love endurance racing, but for me it was a no brainer. If the gentleman drivers in GTD experienced what I did this past weekend, the GTD class would shrink... quickly. -mike |
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1 Apr 2014, 21:50 (Ref:3387599) | #2883 | ||
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If TUSCC dies I hope it dies fast.
World Challenge is starting to sound like where it is at, all they need is a prototype class and some enduros to smother TUSCAR. The real tragedy is that Sebring and Road Atlanta will likely fall with it. |
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While I'm not exactly enthusiastic about TUSCC, I think people are being a little overly optimistic about expanding World Challenge. Adding prototypes and endurance races (or more races in general) would put a large strain on many of the teams finances, not to mention the SCCA itself.
AT ANY rate, let's get back to talking about TUSCC. |
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“We’re trying to close the doors without embarrassing ourselves, the France family and embarrassing (the) Grand American Series,” he said in the deposition. “There is no money. There is no purse. There’s nothing.” |
2 Apr 2014, 00:05 (Ref:3387632) | #2886 | ||
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Some good news for a change, 8Star confirms Ligier chassis P2 in last three TUSC Prototype rounds.
http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/8s...s-p2-for-tusc/ |
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2 Apr 2014, 00:38 (Ref:3387642) | #2887 | ||
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It is kind of curious though, considering that Pottolichio owns 2 Corvette DPs (unless he already sold them off??) |
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2 Apr 2014, 00:40 (Ref:3387643) | #2888 | ||
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The only logical solution is to put the DP motor into a P2. Ligier-Chevrolet.
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2 Apr 2014, 00:50 (Ref:3387646) | #2889 | ||
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As for Muscle Milk, why not run the GT3 GTR in PWC? Since GTD is a class that is on another downward spiral like P is, go run PWC. Why not go after the series that knows what they are doing and have aligned themselves with the FIA and a stable rules platform? It's obvious that IMSA doesn't know what they are doing and they realize that. Go to the series that does. |
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If the gtlm Porsche thing is true than I'd rather have them gone than be given wins, same goes for ford.esm,srt,and ajr deserved those sebring wins!! Utter crap that they were give to porshe when EVERYBODY needs roi! The first PwC was fantastic,we'll see were it goes.but it won't go far scca doesn't do professional enduros,and I would much rather see multi class gt racing than prototypes. Either way I look forward to sonoma that race has always been fun,would be sad if sonoma turns out better than long beach and laguna TUSCAR races. Anyways the MLB season has started so now it'll be easier to ignore TUSCAR if the stupidity continues......GO GIANTS! Last edited by Lagunaseca_4life; 2 Apr 2014 at 02:13. |
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2 Apr 2014, 02:07 (Ref:3387654) | #2892 | ||
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Ehhhh, I wouldn't go as far to say that ESM "deserved" a win.
Were they the sentimental favorite for the ALMS side? Absolutely. No one "deserves" a win though. |
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What the hell did the 01 ganassi do the whole day? They were hardly anywhere near the top 5 and getting passed up a few times and also spun a few times.then they pit and magically the fcy is extended to were esm had no chance to catch them. Ganassi was given that win esm was robbed. |
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2 Apr 2014, 02:26 (Ref:3387656) | #2894 | ||
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I'm not going to go into that argument.
All I'm saying is, no team, regardless of series they're competing in, "deserves" a win. |
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Just saying esm was in the best position to win, and I should add the axr,oak, and 02 ganassi were in position to also possibly win.i like both dps and p2's, I like fords,I'm a ford certified technician at a ford dealer,I want ford to win in any series.but I also want to see a win deserved and not given,wether from bop,pispoor officiating,or even purposeful officiating!
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I really hope they figure out a way to put some bigger (relative to what we have now) V8s in the back of the P2 cars. I would think it would be almost necessary if the series is considering the switch to P2 as top class in 2017 or whatever.
I want the class to have all the engine sounds we can get. |
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ESM did run a great race, and they were very quick later in the race. Ganassi got a lucky break ... but they were there, weren't they? They didn't have a crash, a mechanical, didn't blow a pit stop ... they let everyone else fight up front and they turned their laps.
Ganassi #01 caught a break by pitting early, sure. But they didn't cheat, or steal the win. The belonged where they were. I am a big David Braham fan, and also a Ryan Dalziel fan. I'd love to see those two on the top step at Sebring. But Matt's campervan is right: Ganassi Deserved its win. ESM earned second place. Neither got where they were through stupid rules, cheating, or anything like that. Racing luck favored Ganassi—but then, it also favored ESM. ESM didn't get speared by a PC, nothing broke, they didn't get caught up in someone else's bad luck or bad driving. No team reaches the end of a serious endurance race without a little luck. Ganassi just got a big break at the right time. No one "deserves" a win just because they tried hard. This isn't T-Ball. ESM got beat by a bad break. They drove a great race. They deserved ... second. Finish right after the winner, you deserve second. |
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