|
| Site Partners: | SpotterGuides | Veloce Books |
| Related Sites: | Your Link Here |
|
|
|||||||||
|
||||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
|
||||||||||
|
|
|
|||||||
| View Poll Results: Best driver in the smaller teams? | |||
| Heidfeld |
   
|
0 | 0% |
| Frentzen |
  
|
0 | 0% |
| Fisichella |
  
|
12 | 14.63% |
| Villeneuve |
  
|
3 | 3.66% |
| Button |
  
|
14 | 17.07% |
| Panis |
  
|
0 | 0% |
| Da Matta |
|
1 | 1.22% |
| Webber |
|
48 | 58.54% |
| Wilson |
|
2 | 2.44% |
| Someone Else (sorry Ralp, Antonio and Jos) |
|
2 | 2.44% |
| Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll | |||
 |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
2 Jun 2003, 16:23 (Ref:617947)
|
#1 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 13,000
 |
Best Driver Outside the Top 4 teams so Far?
Well, we've had 7 races so far, 9 to go, and who do you think have been the best drivers among the smaller teams?
|
||
|
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 16:32 (Ref:617962)
|
#2 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 2,739
|
Webber, looking strong in an ever improving car
|
||
|
|
__________________
A torrential afternoon practice session in Watkins Glen saw Villeneuve out-qualify everyone. By 11 seconds.Scheckter stated: "I scared myself rigid that day, I thought I had to be quickest. Then I saw Gilles's time and - I still don't really understand how it was possible. Eleven seconds !"
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 16:59 (Ref:618020)
|
#3 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 729
|
Fisi. Stomping all over his teammate again. Putting that Jordan up into midfield again. With barely any car development and limited testing. And year old cossies.
Webber close second. Wilson is doing a great rookie job, and Button seems to have qualifying pace at times but it's not converting. DaMatta... Just gonna mention him because I thought he'd do a fair bit worse than he is. |
||
|
|
__________________
Gawky supermodels may look stunning in the right clothes, on the right catwalk, in the right city, but in an M&S jumper, on a crowded street, on a wet Wednesday afternoon, only classic good looks will catch the eye. - Ian Eveleigh.
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 18:13 (Ref:618135)
|
#4 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 785
|
Fisichella.
He's not just the best driver in the smaller teams, he's one of the best F1 drivers I've ever seen. He needs a job with a top team, soon.... |
||
|
|
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 18:54 (Ref:618200)
|
#5 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,441
|
Think its gotta be webber!
|
||
|
|
__________________
"Miss Stroplash" - The Hooker - BGP 2009
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 19:10 (Ref:618226)
|
#6 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 163
|
Webber has really brought Jaguar on more in half a season than Irvine did in 3 years so he gets my vote.
Fisichella did brilliantly in what was a flukey win in Brazil but I've been abit disappointed in him this year. More focus on driving and less on lining up a top drive and criticising Jordan would be a good idea. Still a brilliant talent though. Wilson has done well, shame about Minardi's reliability Da Matta looks like he has got the hang of driving an F1 car in the past few races and has outdriven Panis recently. Button- again has surprised me with his speed. Real shame he crashed at Monaco because he looked really strong up to that point. |
||
|
|
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 19:17 (Ref:618238)
|
#7 | ||
|
Ten-Tenths Hall of Fame
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 5,181
 |
You know how I voted.
|
||
|
|
__________________
"And the most important thing is that we, the Vettels, the Bernies, whoever, should not destroy our own sport by making stupid comments about the ******* noise." - Niki Lauda
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 19:22 (Ref:618253)
|
#8 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 413
|
I'm an Aussie - whaddyareckin?
He's the best driver in the worst team. |
||
|
|
__________________
Let no way be the way - let no limitation be the limitation! The late great Bruce Lee
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 19:42 (Ref:618282)
|
#9 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,421
|
Quote:
I think Fisi is the sort of driver that would crumble under pressure in a top team. Frentzen and Capelli had some brilliant performances in midfield machinery, but never really did all that great when they got into a top team. I think Fisichella might be similar. I think the reason why no top team has signed him is because they're scared of hiring another Frentzen or Capelli. |
||
|
|
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 22:30 (Ref:618492)
|
#10 | ||
|
Ten-Tenths Hall of Fame
Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 5,181
|
How do you come to that conclusion YM? Based on what? Schummi had some great performances (ok he only had a few races in poor cars) in midfield cars, then went on to be the best of all time.
Give Fisi the Ferrari, and he is WDC. No doubt in my mind. Last edited by Inigo Montoya; 2 Jun 2003 at 22:32. |
||
|
|
__________________
"And the most important thing is that we, the Vettels, the Bernies, whoever, should not destroy our own sport by making stupid comments about the ******* noise." - Niki Lauda
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 22:33 (Ref:618496)
|
#11 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 13,211
|
Jenson. He's showing JV the way so far this season and quite possibly would have bagged some points at Monaco if not for the accident.
|
||
|
|
__________________
That's so frickin uncool man!
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 22:38 (Ref:618500)
|
#12 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 583
|
It has to be webber, I mean, he is in Jaguar!!!!!!.
|
||
|
|
__________________
"freedom, what is it?, we'll never know..."
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 23:15 (Ref:618543)
|
#13 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 412
|
Yes indeed Webber is tops on my list. Jenson is not far behind however, as he too has done a great job. I hope his shunt won't hurt his progress.
|
||
|
|
|
|
2 Jun 2003, 23:34 (Ref:618557)
|
#14 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 5,276
|
Honestly, Webber. Jenson isn't that impressive, he's made more mistakes than Jacques.
|
||
|
|
__________________
"Many people depend on motor racing for their livelihood, to them it is a business. To me, it is a sport." -Jim Clark
|
|
3 Jun 2003, 02:38 (Ref:618678)
|
#15 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,744
|
Fisi. Webber has definately been very impressive too, but I think we tend to underestimate Jaguar based on past/spotty performance. Fisi's been driving a sh!tbox this year.
|
||
|
|
__________________
No Rotor, No Motor.
|
|
3 Jun 2003, 03:19 (Ref:618706)
|
#16 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 7,294
|
Webber.
|
||
|
|
__________________
Sunderland Til I Die!
|
|
3 Jun 2003, 03:41 (Ref:618721)
|
#17 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,073
|
I voted for Fisi because i really don't know how much of the Jaguar's improvement is due to their finally resolving issues with the car or because Webber really is carrying them.
JB is a good sort and a fine driver. Certainly he has not embarassed himself or been shown-up by JV this season. That being said, is not being shown-up by JV as much of an accomplishment as it once was? Is JV playing out the string or is there some brilliance still to be unleashed upon F1 (by JV)? |
||
|
|
__________________
"He's still a young guy and I always think, slightly morbidly, the last thing you learn is how to die and at the end of the day everybody learns every single day." - The Ever-Cheerfull Ron Dennis on Lewis Hamilton.
|
|
3 Jun 2003, 04:00 (Ref:618736)
|
#18 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,936
|
Webber. He's been pushing that Jag to the breaking point every race. Literally. And no, that's not a fault, it's a strength. Put him at a team where the suspension doesn't collapse under heavy loading, and it'll be a huge strength.
Fisi's great as always, but not as impressive as Webber's been. |
||
|
|
__________________
"Put a ****ing wheel on there! Let me go out again!" -Gilles Villeneuve, Zandvoort, 1979
|
|
3 Jun 2003, 06:44 (Ref:618815)
|
#19 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 2,012
|
Webber
|
||
|
|
__________________
Be nice to your kids. They will choose your nursing home one day.
|
|
3 Jun 2003, 06:50 (Ref:618819)
|
#20 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 288
|
The fans in Korr's grandstands are doing a duck dance and chanting, 'WEBBER, WEBBER, WEBBER...."
|
||
|
|
__________________
"I'm not speeding, I'm qualifying"
|
|
3 Jun 2003, 13:49 (Ref:619183)
|
#21 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,707
|
FIRMAN, hurrah, ok, bit of patriotic bias, Webber is doing well, as is Fisi but i think he has a bit more to do until he is proved, especially as Jordan have a total of 11 points i think, 10 from fisi's VERY lucky win, a normal race and i dont think he would have any.
Last edited by Smokey 6 litre; 3 Jun 2003 at 13:50. |
||
|
|
__________________
"If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now" Douglas Adams. 1952-2001
|
|
3 Jun 2003, 14:05 (Ref:619199)
|
#22 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 785
|
Webber has been impressive, but I can't quite see why he's running away with this poll. He has been good in qualifying admittedly, but in the races (often not his fault) he's acheived next to nothing. Irvine gave the team 2 podiums, I'll only see Webber as a total superstar when he begins to score points.....
|
||
|
|
|
|
3 Jun 2003, 15:27 (Ref:619290)
|
#23 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 351
|
I would say that Webber surprised me the most. I am also very pleasantly surprised for Wilson, he is doing very very well for driving a Minardi. Have to admit that Da Matta also drives better than I ever expected him to do.
I think my top vote have to be Justing though, he had basically no testing at all, did not know tha first few tracks and still did amazingly in the first 3 laps. After that the cars take over and he just cannot keep up with the other :-(( it a shame. |
||
|
|
|
|
4 Jun 2003, 01:32 (Ref:619918)
|
#24 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 570
|
Webber first then Button
|
||
|
|
__________________
In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.
|
|
4 Jun 2003, 02:38 (Ref:619951)
|
#25 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 2,739
|
The Jaguar car and team are vastly improved and I think that reflects greatly on Webber's on track performances. I think one of Webber's greatest strengths (other than his driving skills)are his leadership skills. He is said to be a frequent visitor to the factory and gets on well with all members of the team, not unlike a certain german fellow we all know and love.
 He also represents the team in the media very well. Something Mr.Irvine was never capable of. Webber appears to be an out and out professional and skilled racing driver, and I for one am very happy he has signed on with Jag for another two years. |
||
|
|
__________________
A torrential afternoon practice session in Watkins Glen saw Villeneuve out-qualify everyone. By 11 seconds.Scheckter stated: "I scared myself rigid that day, I thought I had to be quickest. Then I saw Gilles's time and - I still don't really understand how it was possible. Eleven seconds !"
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Teams eligible for the third driver in 2006 | Kirk | Formula One | 16 | 29 Oct 2005 18:13 |
| 2 Car teams/One car teams in future F1 | Splatz the Cow | Formula One | 12 | 10 Nov 2003 17:51 |
| Dream three driver teams...... | Skam85 | Formula One | 27 | 23 Oct 2003 21:17 |
| F1 test teams - why don't all teams use them? | Super Tourer | Formula One | 5 | 12 Mar 2002 06:53 |
| How many teams and what teamsCART Teams at 2001 INDY 500 | mayhemotorsports | IRL Indycar Series | 9 | 8 Jun 2000 13:08 |
Linear Mode
