LM24 Race 2014 24 Hours of Le Mans Entry List Thread - Page 30

Deleted · 28 Apr 2014, 12:47 (Ref:3399175)

Oh wow.

Happy to see Astons gone, if I'm perfectly honest.

And on positive side at least there still seems to be competition for Rebellion, in theory.

I wonder if Tracy Krohn is burning barns now that he could've easily made the race after withdrawing the 5th reserve "Risi" car

But with no reserves left ACO will likely get ton of extra "we want in" requests

Rodger Davies · 28 Apr 2014, 12:54 (Ref:3399180)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Oh wow.

Happy to see Astons gone, if I'm perfectly honest.

And on positive side at least there still seems to be competition for Rebellion, in theory.

I wonder if Tracy Krohn is burning barns now that he could've easily made the race after withdrawing the 5th reserve "Risi" car

But with no reserves left ACO will likely get ton of extra "we want in" requests

Krohn will be there, he's renting the Taisin entry. Perhaps now the ACO will regret giving his original entry the shaft!

Real surprise to see the struggle for entries, I can't remember the reserve list being used up this fast for a long time, strong chance of there being fewer than 56. Wonder if there's any scope for asking any other teams if they'd want an entry at short notice.

I also notice that the Lotus has a Romanian flag by it - is this new?

Simmi · 28 Apr 2014, 13:00 (Ref:3399181)

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Originally Posted by Samoan Attorney

Thanks for bringing that to our attention, however it is the two Millenium LM P2 cars that have withdrawn, SMP are still on the list.

Thanks, complete brain fart from me. Congrats on your guys getting a second entry!

Really gutted for Oliver Turvey and John Martin especially. Two guys who are P1 quality but now suddenly have no drive. Hopefully they can sneak back in somewhere for Le Mans - but their WEC campaigns are ruined.

Deleted · 28 Apr 2014, 13:00 (Ref:3399182)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

Krohn will be there, he's renting the Taisin entry. Perhaps now the ACO will regret giving his original entry the shaft!

Real surprise to see the struggle for entries, I can't remember the reserve list being used up this fast for a long time, strong chance of there being fewer than 56. Wonder if there's any scope for asking any other teams if they'd want an entry at short notice.

I also notice that the Lotus has a Romanian flag by it - is this new?

Couple of years ago there was huge drop too out but only when there was few of weeks to go so yeah this is fairly shocking. But since there is so much time left I'm sure new reserves will come up soon, ACO has given entries on much shorter notice before. Remember Epsilon Euskadi in 2008 (okay they were in the reserves but still) etc

I think Tracy would have still wished to have his own team there, if only with camourflage name.

Pickett Racing should've kept their entry and only fully folded USCC after LM now that they've given up on everything...

Beetle · 28 Apr 2014, 13:00 (Ref:3399183)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

I also notice that the Lotus has a Romanian flag by it - is this new?

Probably one of the biggest mysteries on the entry list, if I'm honest!

These withdrawals are pretty staggering. By my count, that promotes #76 Matmut, #79 Prospeed, #50 Larbre, #30 Signatech, and #42 Caterham/Greaves to the race. Only Pegasus left on reserve list.

airbusA346 · 28 Apr 2014, 13:01 (Ref:3399184)

Gutted for the guys at Delta-ADR.

Glad there are more Porsche's on the entry list though.

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/f...raw-from-lm24/

Gingers4Justice · 28 Apr 2014, 13:02 (Ref:3399185)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

I also notice that the Lotus has a Romanian flag by it - is this new?

I think I saw it on the last update.

Expect that flag to change again before the final list is published, and may be again during the race.

airbusA346 · 28 Apr 2014, 13:02 (Ref:3399186)

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Originally Posted by Beetle

Probably one of the biggest mysteries on the entry list, if I'm honest!

These withdrawals are pretty staggering. By my count, that promotes #76 Matmut, #79 Prospeed, #50 Larbre, #30 Signatech, and #42 Caterham/Greaves to the race. Only Pegasus left on reserve list.

Are there any reserves left because none are mentioned on the entry list?

http://www.24h-lemans.com/wpphpFichi...-mans-2014.pdf

Simmi · 28 Apr 2014, 13:02 (Ref:3399187)

It would be great if someone screenshoted the original entry list. It changes so much every year - but the weblink always reverts to the new version. The Romanian flag is definitely new.

**bella** · 28 Apr 2014, 13:03 (Ref:3399188)

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Originally Posted by Beetle

Probably one of the biggest mysteries on the entry list, if I'm honest!

isn't it still run by colin kolles, who iirc is romanian himself? in which case it's just the same as the lotus formula renault 3.5 entries carrying the czech flag?

Samoan Attorney · 28 Apr 2014, 13:03 (Ref:3399189)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Thanks, complete brain fart from me. Congrats on your guys getting a second entry!

Really gutted for Oliver Turvey and John Martin especially. Two guys who are P1 quality but now suddenly have no drive. Hopefully they can sneak back in somewhere for Le Mans - but their WEC campaigns are ruined.

No problem. ADR are a quality outfit and it is very unfortunate for them to have to withdraw at this late stage.

Simmi · 28 Apr 2014, 13:04 (Ref:3399190)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

Are there any reserves left because none are mentioned on the entry list?

http://www.24h-lemans.com/wpphpFichi...-mans-2014.pdf

No reserves left. Pegasus are in the show because the second Alpine entry was withdrawn in the latest set of announcements.

Rodger Davies · 28 Apr 2014, 13:10 (Ref:3399196)

Pity for Millennium... especially as the arrival of their finding is only days away...

Real shame for ADR though, I'm sure they would have managed to put a real programme together if they hadn't been duped.

Fabien Giroix has pit together many programmes over the years though, hope the true story comes out at some point.

Simmi · 28 Apr 2014, 13:16 (Ref:3399197)

We've got stars directing our fate, and we're praying it's not too late, 'cause we know we're falling from grace, Millennium.

Lots of seats suddenly available. Maybe a few clues in the test day entry list: http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/la-...eures-du-mans/

I'd also be interested to see what Aston have to say about their mass withdrawal.

Rodger Davies · 28 Apr 2014, 13:20 (Ref:3399200)

I always assumed that #96 was a placeholder in case Gulf Racing UK wanted an entry for Goethe's Aston. Surprised at #89's withdrawal although I'm sure we'll get some PR along the lines of 'to concentrate on our existing cars'.

Simmi · 28 Apr 2014, 13:24 (Ref:3399201)

Shame to see Aston only give themselves a single bullet in the GT-Pro fight.

Only way in the #99 can win is due to mass attrition.

Hawkwood · 28 Apr 2014, 13:35 (Ref:3399207)

A shame that Craft pulled out.
I know they've got a tie-in with Bamboo now who have a tie-in with AMR to run an Aston this year, but I really thought Frank Yu would've wanted to actually race at Le Mans himself.
Having a team from Hong Kong would've added a nice bit of colour too...

**bella** · 28 Apr 2014, 13:36 (Ref:3399209)

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Originally Posted by Samoan Attorney

No problem. ADR are a quality outfit and it is very unfortunate for them to have to withdraw at this late stage.

exactly. it's a sad demonstration of where we're at in motorsport when even these guys can't find a stable source of funding.

GT6 · 28 Apr 2014, 14:44 (Ref:3399226)

A real shame for some of the teams and drivers but good news for others, sorry that we are now left with only 4 Astons and the GT class is looking like a ferrari owners club day out with a few guests. MY thoughts are that we have not seen the last withdrawls but fingers crossed

Simmi · 28 Apr 2014, 14:59 (Ref:3399230)

In terms of new guys - it seems like we have:

#29 Pegasus - Julien Schell / Nicolas Leutwiler / TBA
#42 Greaves - Michael Munemman / Alessandro Latif / TBA
#50 Larbre - Keiko Ihara / Gustavo Yacaman (likely) / TBA

#67 Imsa - Raymond Narac / Nicolas Armindo / David Hallyday
#79 Prospeed - Xavier Maassen / TBA / TBA

nobster · 28 Apr 2014, 16:28 (Ref:3399253)

Jeez, been away for a day to find all this news out, lots of changes, are they going to put new names on the reserve list in case there will be more drop outs ( lotus )

Victor_RO · 28 Apr 2014, 16:39 (Ref:3399259)

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Originally Posted by bella

exactly. it's a sad demonstration of where we're at in motorsport when even these guys can't find a stable source of funding.

It's also a reflection on the state of the world right now though.

TheMightyM · 28 Apr 2014, 16:54 (Ref:3399271)

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Originally Posted by nobster

Jeez, been away for a day to find all this news out, lots of changes, are they going to put new names on the reserve list in case there will be more drop outs ( lotus )

That's not so easy to do. At this point, the entire ELMS P2 grid is going to Le Mans. There are a few cars on the ELMS GTE-Am side that I suppose the ACO could invite: AT Racing Ferrari F458, Kessel Racing Ferrari Racing 2 x Ferrari F458, maybe the Gulf Racing UK Porsche. Not sure which (if any) of those teams have the money lined up to maybe do Le Mans on such short notice.

That's about it at best — as was previously mentioned, Prospeed's second Porsche was badly damaged at the ELMS test day, so they are likely renting the Crubilé Sport car to run Le Mans. And the mass Aston-Martin Le Mans reduction makes it unlikely that the Gulf Racing UK Aston-Martin would be going.

Even if the ACO could get three or four additional GTE-AM cars as possible reserves, that may or may not cover the remaining possible pre-race drops.

Rodger Davies · 28 Apr 2014, 16:57 (Ref:3399272)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

In terms of new guys - it seems like we have:

#79 Prospeed - Xavier Maassen / TBA / TBA

I would hazard a guess at that being the van Splunteren / Soulet car that was originally scheduled to be entered into ELMS. That said, they will have to find an extra chassis to borrow/buy on top of the running costs. Here's hoping.

nobster · 28 Apr 2014, 17:13 (Ref:3399276)

So maybe Paul van Spunteren will take part as well then this year?

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