2007 BIMF & the Bathurst 12 Hour Race (Merged x3) - Page 3

Christopher · 10 Jul 2006, 13:45 (Ref:1652294)

I was thinking about the RX-8SP when the 12Hour was announced. I know it's production based but I'd like to see the RX-8SP included especially in BP livery. A standard version wouldn't have much chance against the Sti's, EVO's and HSV's.

bathurst77 · 11 Jul 2006, 04:31 (Ref:1653111)

I hear GM and HSV will soon announce the impending release of a superlighweight blown 8 litre 8speed AWD Monaro, running full V8SC chassis/suspension and aero etc, similar to Garry Rogers' mule (you didnt realise that was a production prototype, did you?)

This will be elligable of course, but after it beats all the other stock production cars, it will be quietly shelved.

Seriously tho.. im excited, and will be there!

bathurst77 · 11 Jul 2006, 04:36 (Ref:1653115)

OK after that gibe, what cars/specs SHOULD be in this race?

Obviously XR6T, XR8, GT 5.4
SS, HSV clubby and GTO 6Litre
Evo and WRX,
RX8

what about ferrari/lotus/lambo etc?
Viper
300C st?
The Elfin streamliner?

DAVID PATERSON · 11 Jul 2006, 05:04 (Ref:1653119)

Many years ago the bloke who controlled the Bathurst 500 declared, "If I can't sit in the back, it's banned."

I'd like to see the race restricted to cars with a minimum of four seats.

stoned pony · 11 Jul 2006, 05:39 (Ref:1653126)

His name was Jack Hinxman and he did that because "his" Bathurst 500 was for mass production sedans or derivatives. In other words, it had to have a rear seat with proper leg space.
I somehow think production cars have moved on a bit since Jack's day.
And how do you define "a minimum of four seats", David? There are a lot of cars that fit that criteria but the back of the front seat almost touches the front of the back seat cushion. So does that conform to being a proper seat?
Personally I'd be going on minimum production numbers with the baseline set at a realistic level to stop anything that remotely resembles a special. How about a minimum 1000 units for local cars, 5000 units for imports?
That way the HSV and FPV stuff gets a run but a Porsche Carrera GT4 or Ferrari Enzo does not.

**GTRMagic** · 11 Jul 2006, 05:51 (Ref:1653127)

A factory-prepped BMW 120d or 320d turbo diesel with the same standard of prep shown at the nurburgring 24hrs would be hard to beat at Bathurst with the right pilots at the wheel.....

Chucky · 11 Jul 2006, 06:24 (Ref:1653135)

I think you could expect GT3 cars to lead the field.

alfacors · 11 Jul 2006, 07:15 (Ref:1653156)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtpanorama

From my discussions with people who are closely involved the eligble cars will run to GTP and APCC regs, which wont include "special" editions. Thats what kills production car racing, when manufacturers start making "specials" just to win a race.

I don't think any talk of Elfins, GT3s etc fits in with what MtPanorama has already stated....

So you'd be looking at what runs currently (and what people have in the shed but havent run yet) - HSV, FPV, RX7s, EVOs, STi and WRX, SS, XR8/XR6T, SV6, Satrias, Celicas, MR2s, BMWs, Citroen, Peugeot, Alfa Romeo etc etc. Think 2Hour race a couple of years ago.

Chucky · 11 Jul 2006, 07:40 (Ref:1653163)

I think you could expect GT3 cars to lead the field.

mtpanorama · 11 Jul 2006, 09:11 (Ref:1653199)

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfacors

I don't think any talk of Elfins, GT3s etc fits in with what MtPanorama has already stated....

So you'd be looking at what runs currently (and what people have in the shed but havent run yet) - HSV, FPV, RX7s, EVOs, STi and WRX, SS, XR8/XR6T, SV6, Satrias, Celicas, MR2s, BMWs, Citroen, Peugeot, Alfa Romeo etc etc. Think 2Hour race a couple of years ago.

At the risk of repeating myself. LISTEN ,Alfacors is correct. The feild will be made up of GT performance and APCC, maybe utes and a deisel class.
All will be revealed at the end of the month I am told.

AussieV8 · 11 Jul 2006, 11:44 (Ref:1653351)

I have been told that there is a Mazda 3 SP23 from ACT getting put together for APCC and an RX8 for GTP..

Lets hope Alan Horsley looks at the MPS 6 or 3 for the 12hr as I think in current spec the RX8 would have trouble keeping the other competitors in site.

As for the Ford share yes they did buy into a Mazda when they were in trouble and this helped both companies as Ford had no replacement for the Escort and Cortina...

Now that Mazda can stand on their feet it has been looked at it would like to buy back some shares from Ford.

So lets start a roll call of who will be going and make a huge meet for the weekend...

mtpanorama · 11 Jul 2006, 11:57 (Ref:1653368)

I will definately be there, hopefully driving, if not crewing.

AussieV8 · 11 Jul 2006, 12:16 (Ref:1653391)

I have booked off holidays for the race for 2007 and the Bravo will be packed for a big weekend.

DAVID PATERSON · 11 Jul 2006, 13:20 (Ref:1653466)

I have already sent my EOI to compete in the Historic Touring Car races on friday and saturday.

alfacors · 11 Jul 2006, 13:30 (Ref:1653476)

I'll definitely be there. Was a good weekend this year, but will be a GREAT weekend next year!

Tony C · 16 Jul 2006, 05:23 (Ref:1657229)

The Bathurst 12hr of old was a lot of fun for all involved, many weekend racers combined budgets in one car and did more laps around Bathurst than they could in a Bathurst 1000.

To bring up to date it would need to use current rules for each category, whether they be prod car or ute.

To cater for those people/manufacturers that want to be first over the line, what about an 'open' class, or run what you brung. Old VS V8 supercars, ferrari, monaro, sports sedan (if you think it can last 12 hours), would be good to see some of these fast cars come out of the shed.

AussieV8 · 16 Jul 2006, 05:48 (Ref:1657233)

Lets hope we get a healthy mixture of manufactures and models entering this event...like days gone by the Bathurst 12hr of the 90's grew to be a great showroom showdown.

courageous · 16 Jul 2006, 18:29 (Ref:1657667)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony C

what about an 'open' class, or run what you brung.

Problem with that is somebody will take the michael & bring something like an old McLaren F1 GT1 car & ruin it for everyone else

Chucky · 16 Jul 2006, 23:46 (Ref:1657867)

What is this fascination with "open rules"?

Harves · 16 Jul 2006, 23:48 (Ref:1657868)

Has anything been confirmed or is this all just talk????

Chucky · 17 Jul 2006, 01:54 (Ref:1657894)

Dunno about confirmed but it's pretty much common knowledge at the moment.

mtpanorama · 17 Jul 2006, 01:57 (Ref:1657895)

It is confirmed!
There will be a release at the end of the month in regards to the exact catagories, costs, times etc.
I will try and find out an exact date for this in the next couple of days.

Alan 52 · 17 Jul 2006, 01:57 (Ref:1657896)

If the race hopes to attract broad interest from outside the motorsport community it really should not be open to exotics such as Porsche's,Ferrari's etc. but should be set at the level of cars competing currently in Performance and Production cars.Also the idea listed in a previous post of starting the race at 5am is a joke.Only the fanatics(i.e. people who post on forums like this)would get up to make the start at this time and for most spectators if they can't see the start they wouldn't bother going.The old 12 hour only had this start time to facilitate live TV of the finish and surely no one can realistically expect this race to be able to afford the million dollar cost of live TV in its first year.

woodbine · 17 Jul 2006, 02:15 (Ref:1657902)

So how about 8am to 8pm?

I just hope that they can get a highlights package onto FTA TV. A well-advertised 1-2hr package would whet people's appetites to come and watch it live next year. And if they could get some name drivers there as well...

RotorFan · 17 Jul 2006, 03:44 (Ref:1657925)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher

I was thinking about the RX-8SP when the 12Hour was announced. I know it's production based but I'd like to see the RX-8SP included especially in BP livery. A standard version wouldn't have much chance against the Sti's, EVO's and HSV's.

It couldn't be placed in the same class as them I wouldn't have thought. Its much lower spec than the RX-7. Be good to see an RX-8SP run for outright honours

I don't see whats wrong with specials if there is enough numbers of them. Isn't part of motorsport about advancing the technology of road cars?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

Many years ago the bloke who controlled the Bathurst 500 declared, "If I can't sit in the back, it's banned."

Well he was an absolute nutter. RX-7s have four very reasonably sized seats anyway

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