Team Aus Thread etc (Merged) - Page 7

kmsport · 25 Jan 2006, 23:57 (Ref:1509169)

I really was disappointed with the Eastern Creek times...not much faster than a F3

Kiwi3 · 9 Feb 2006, 13:33 (Ref:1518837)

As suggested by Mac a couple of weeks ago Marcus Marshall is to take over from Will Davison for the next three races. I have not followed Champcar so don't know how good he is, but if my understanding is correct he has not exactly set the world on fire?

Is this a case of Marshall buying the drive or does Davison have other commitments?

Shame Will Power left, they have not repeated their Brands Hatch form.

D.R.T. · 9 Feb 2006, 15:03 (Ref:1518893)

Has Marshall been confirmed ??

His performances is CC werent anything to write home about, however this wasn't surprising given that he had come from Brit F3/ Aus F3 and Carerra Cup into ChampCar.

Unfortunately Will Davison has touring car commintments in Australia, howeever I beleive a driver change was needed anyways, just not with Marshall.

cos · 9 Feb 2006, 15:36 (Ref:1518912)

Marshall will be racing at Indonesia, Mexico and USA

Kiwi3 · 10 Feb 2006, 05:57 (Ref:1519387)

Come to think of it, Christian Jones has recent experience of Sentul from his Asian F3 involvement. If there was one track that he would be relatively good at, it is this one.

D.R.T. · 11 Feb 2006, 02:04 (Ref:1520087)

Marshall 2nd quickest in Practice 2. Wet conditions but where has this come from ?

Chucky · 11 Feb 2006, 02:47 (Ref:1520097)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmsport

I really was disappointed with the Eastern Creek times...not much faster than a F3

Yeah, only 7 seconds quicker, what a shame.

Chucky · 11 Feb 2006, 02:48 (Ref:1520098)

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

His performances is CC werent anything to write home about, however this wasn't surprising given that he had come from Brit F3/ Aus F3 and Carerra Cup into ChampCar.

WTF does that mean?!?

D.R.T. · 11 Feb 2006, 03:54 (Ref:1520113)

That these categories aren't a great stepping stone to go straight into CC.

Mark Webber · 11 Feb 2006, 06:46 (Ref:1520142)

I hope MM does well and the team get the car right thats the main focus the driver is not the issue ATM the car and team prep are in the hot seat

Chucky · 12 Feb 2006, 01:42 (Ref:1520650)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Webber

I hope MM does well and the team get the car right thats the main focus the driver is not the issue ATM the car and team prep are in the hot seat

B&*%$%#@. Team politics, nepotism and mishandling of potential drivers are the issue. The car is the same one every one esle has and the team are more than capable, given the chance.

Chucky · 12 Feb 2006, 01:43 (Ref:1520651)

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

That these categories aren't a great stepping stone to go straight into CC.

If AusF3-Brit F3 isn't good enough then I'm not sure what would be. The only thing that path lacks is experience with US tracks.

WebberForWDC · 12 Feb 2006, 04:34 (Ref:1520684)

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

That these categories aren't a great stepping stone to go straight into CC.

It seemed to be an okay stepping stone for eg. Sato into F1 where most tracks aren't in Britain, he wasn't a consistant backmarker at least...

What's the big difference between Formula Atlantic and British F3... the lack of consistent Top 5 results in F3 are a problem for CC or A1 or indeed F1, no worries for V8s though will do good there. Knowing the American tracks hardly accounts for seconds worth of lap time...

By F1 and subsequently the leading A1 standards Will Davison and Marshall weren't good enough, they would rightly be mocked like Yoong if they were piloting Midlands around unfortunately that's just how it is.

Sure the ADR team also has issues...

sizzle · 12 Feb 2006, 07:22 (Ref:1520715)

Another outstanding performance from the lads again today in the sprint race.

Rick · 12 Feb 2006, 10:39 (Ref:1520804)

got the main one right tho'. Well done.

Mark Webber · 12 Feb 2006, 12:02 (Ref:1520864)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chucky

B&*%$%#@. Team politics, nepotism and mishandling of potential drivers are the issue. The car is the same one every one esle has and the team are more than capable, given the chance.

you are about 70% right ... you are kidding yourself if you think the french team are not 100x better in dailing in their car than the Aussies their car is the best setup car no matter what the track there is quite a few setup combo's to make a car good or crap the Aussie team is not up to the job and the proof is the results in quail and the sprint race

sizzle · 12 Feb 2006, 13:18 (Ref:1520911)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

got the main one right tho'. Well done.

Was indeed, but I would put it down more to the pitstop strategy rather than outright speed. Marshall certainly appeared to let quite a few through without much of a fight.
Lets face it if the desperados at the front hadn't committed suicide it was unlikely the team were going to get onto the podium.

At the end of the day though the old saying still holds true: "first you have to finish".

Ryan_Briscoe1 · 12 Feb 2006, 14:31 (Ref:1520946)

I'm not really a fan of marcus marshall, but he did get a good result this race, lets see how he goes next, and i don't think the aussie car is up to speed set-up wise, alan jones needs to lift his team.

BOOSTER · 12 Feb 2006, 14:58 (Ref:1520964)

its funny no matter what marshall does in motorsport 90 percent of people on this forum BAG the CRAP out of him why is that, is it that 90 percent of the people on this forum are drivers or just negative people with nothing better to do. seriously if your fans of racing why not support your australian drivers or get out there yourself and do a better job.

Chucky · 12 Feb 2006, 21:10 (Ref:1521298)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Webber

you are about 70% right ... you are kidding yourself if you think the french team are not 100x better in dailing in their car than the Aussies their car is the best setup car no matter what the track there is quite a few setup combo's to make a car good or crap the Aussie team is not up to the job and the proof is the results in quail and the sprint race

So W. Power's form at the start of the season is attributed to what? Divine intervention?

Mark Webber · 12 Feb 2006, 21:38 (Ref:1521319)

no not at all but the 1st race should be the most levelest and ADR are a britished base Aussie team so I think they know Brands very very well plus Will P is a real talent without a doubt .

but well done to MM he drove well and ADR / A Jones I hope this is a turning point
I still see Team Aus main fualt is practice /setup and the sprint race we need to allow your driver being MM to have the car ALL weekend to get as much bum time as poss the sprint race is to important in trems of points to be stuffing around in the midfeild
in the past Will D and now MM have shown they can drive through the grid NOW lets try to start them higher up

Rick · 12 Feb 2006, 23:31 (Ref:1521400)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Webber

now MM have shown they can drive through the grid NOW lets try to start them higher up

great drive from MM, but he certainly didn't do that! Right strategy and a quick stop, followed by other cars falling all over the place produced a result - can't say I saw TA overtake anyone. As I said, great drive though, one of the few not to throw it off at some stage, but the team still has no car speed.

WebberForWDC · 13 Feb 2006, 00:18 (Ref:1521425)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOOSTER

its funny no matter what marshall does in motorsport 90 percent of people on this forum BAG the CRAP out of him why is that, is it that 90 percent of the people on this forum are drivers or just negative people with nothing better to do. seriously if your fans of racing why not support your australian drivers or get out there yourself and do a better job.

What? If anything 90% of people are happy to over-rate drivers!

Marshall is okay for V8s still a bit behind the Cantos etc. in my opinion hence he ran about 3rd/4thish in the PWR Falcon in the Konicas, but nowhere near as good as Will Power and miles behind Mark Webber.

You can't just say what a great job he's doing cause he's gone from 2.5 off pole to 1.9 off pole. If Marshall was driving for Midland F1 he would be laughed at like Yoong and it would be rightly so, whereas the Lapierre's and Kerr's would probably be able to be fairly respectable pay-drivers for Midland.

Gotta be realistic, this A1 is a global contest, evidence suggest MM was a backmarker in Champcar, for the most part apart from the wet didn't get much done in British F3 etc...

From most countries such as Finnland or France etc. also there are only a handful of drivers who are good enough to make genuine claims for F1 test roles or better ours are Courtney, Briscoe, Webber and maybe there are others that Alan Jones needs to find and put in the A1 car. I support Power but it's evident that Power isn't good enough for that few, but Power is good enough to be career Champcar driver like Tagliani, so if Alan Jones can't find option A he needs to unearth a driver good enough to be a career Champcar driver to go in the A1 car.

Marshall is not the former few drivers, and he had a chance to be in the latter bunch and did not impress. Sorry but please be objective.

Jimmy14 · 13 Feb 2006, 02:18 (Ref:1521474)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chucky

B&*%$%#@. Team politics, nepotism and mishandling of potential drivers are the issue. The car is the same one every one esle has and the team are more than capable, given the chance.

That is true, but. unlike a lot of other teams ADR is only running 1 car therefore they only have 1 set of data and can only try 1 setup per practice session. Compare that to DAMS who run 4 cars and therefore have 4 times the amount of data and can try 4 different setups in 1 practice session and ADR are at quite a disadvantage.

Growling Ferret · 13 Feb 2006, 03:25 (Ref:1521495)

Congrats to MM on a great result, but it was interesting to see his best lap time was 1.7 seconds off Canadas, and about .7 off the rest of the fields best lap time.

But by staying out of trouble, and having a little luck (something Team Aus has lacked lately), a good result is on the board.

Now, where do they find that second a lap???

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