Kyalami

Jonny Apex · 9 Jan 2002, 17:17 (Ref:196093)

And I thought you were all F1 fans! I cannot believe nobody has yet cried out in pain at the news that one of the greatest F1 tracks of all time is to be lost to industry developers.

Any thoughts anyone, or is history worth caring about?

paulzinho · 9 Jan 2002, 17:25 (Ref:196101)

It was mentioned somewhere else in this forum and it was mentioned in an earlier thread somewhere

SILVERS95 · 9 Jan 2002, 17:46 (Ref:196115)

But that was the new kyalami not the old one.i know mansell used to say he much prefered the old one

**Stephen Green** · 9 Jan 2002, 18:54 (Ref:196168)

Jonny, it's still not a certainty that the track will be developed. There are three interested parties for the land, one of which is keen to leave it as a motor racing circuit. The other two are bad news I'm afraid.

paulzinho · 9 Jan 2002, 19:38 (Ref:196186)

And what are the chances the group we want gets it?

EERO · 9 Jan 2002, 19:59 (Ref:196215)

Quote:

Originally posted by Jonny Apex
And I thought you were all F1 fans! I cannot believe nobody has yet cried out in pain at the news ...

OUCH!

SILVERS95 · 9 Jan 2002, 20:00 (Ref:196217)

not very good i expect !

Total-F1 · 9 Jan 2002, 23:39 (Ref:196336)

It doesn't really bother me - keeping in touch with your heritage and your roots is OK, but dwelling on the "halcyon" good old days just isn't healthy!

Why are there no cries of pain about Hockenheim being emasculated, Silverstone continually sanitised and the plans to hold Grand Prix in Dubai instead of San Marino?

Progress, my friend.

**Stephen Green** · 10 Jan 2002, 08:14 (Ref:196407)

Total old chap, it was more a worry about part of the circuit being sold off for redevelopment into office or housing, not hanging on to the old days and the original Kyalami.

The irony is that there is plenty of land adjoining Kyalami that could be developed in place of the circuit. Once again the greed of the land owners prevails.

Personally I would be extremely upset to see the circuit emancipated and reduced to a 'club' track, as South Africa has precious little to offer motor sport fans. The new circuit at Welkom is miles from anywhere and not easy to get to. Don't forget South Africa has virtually no public transport system and fans have to rely on cars to get to and from race meetings. Kyalami on the other hand has excellent access and is only a short drive from Johannesburg.

f1manoz · 10 Jan 2002, 10:48 (Ref:196451)

So does this mean the end of World Superbike racing in South Africa? Unless they move to Welkom (where the 500s.....sorry, the MotoGP class) race.

As for Kyalami, it's sad that the place has been sold off yet again, but that's progress.

**Stephen Green** · 10 Jan 2002, 10:55 (Ref:196455)

I would imagine they would move the bikes to Welkom. We still have to wait for the outcome on who has bought the land. The circuit is run by the South African AA so there is some glimmer of hope. I'll post fresh news as and when I receive it from my friends at Kyalami.

paulzinho · 10 Jan 2002, 15:48 (Ref:196587)

Well I was just thinking....

Will a decent circuit ever be built again?

BTW I hate what they're doing to Hockenheim and what they've done to Silverstone, Monza, Imola, Ostereichring, Nurburgring.....

SILVERS95 · 10 Jan 2002, 17:07 (Ref:196627)

I think youve got to balance the progess thing , with keeping the history thats accociated with these circuits.. yes , youve got to have progress , but you cant keep having the guts ripped out of these circuits just cause its the current trend.

Total-F1 · 10 Jan 2002, 17:15 (Ref:196632)

Keep things in perspective - it's not the circuit that matters, it's what took place on it...the Nordschleife circuit wouldn't be nearly as romantic if it was used for lawnmower racing

Speed Demon · 10 Jan 2002, 21:08 (Ref:196762)

Does anyone know what the reduced circuit would look like? Autosport says it will turn left at the end of the pits and rejoin on the back straight, but has a track map been produced yet?

**Stephen Green** · 10 Jan 2002, 23:03 (Ref:196818)

Not to my knowledge, but I will have a word with my friends and try to find out for you.

Mr V · 11 Jan 2002, 04:13 (Ref:196883)

talking of ripping the guts out of circuits...are the proposed changes still going ahead to the silverstone circuit?? i.e changes at club etc.

paulzinho · 11 Jan 2002, 17:12 (Ref:197077)

They already ripped the guts out of Silverstone didnt they?

Speed Demon · 11 Jan 2002, 20:34 (Ref:197175)

Yes the changes to Silverstone are still going ahead, apart from the new pits after Club corner. Instead the current pits will be upgraded. It was considered financially unviable to have F1 only pits in the end.

Mr V · 11 Jan 2002, 20:37 (Ref:197178)

apart from the new pits, are all other changes going ahead..i.e. club becoming banked etc??

Speed Demon · 11 Jan 2002, 20:52 (Ref:197195)

Yep

paulzinho · 11 Jan 2002, 20:55 (Ref:197199)

I still dont see the point of having a slow entry into a banked corner. They should bring back the old Stowe and the short straight. The the banking will do what the BRDC want it to do.....

Speed Demon · 11 Jan 2002, 20:55 (Ref:197200)

Incidentally, I'm putting the finishing touches to my new website, E-tracks, which will have information on just these subjects. It's taken around two years to put together, and includes track maps of hundreds of circuits from all over the world, together with contact information, artistic renderings of circuits, track histories and the latest news on circuit changes. Hopefully I'll have the bulk online by the end of the weekend. I'll keep you posted.

Mr V · 11 Jan 2002, 21:56 (Ref:197260)

be careful u don't get a boll**king like mr russanfriend got for trying to advertise his site!!

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