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Old 1 Aug 2012, 20:04 (Ref:3114883)   #101
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Hi, I must say I thoroughly enjoyed the Touring Cars at the Classic and will make a point of seeing them again. I hope it goes from strength to strength.

If anyone's interested, I have a few pics on Flickr:

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Old 2 Aug 2012, 09:07 (Ref:3115122)   #102
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Great pics Sir, love the one of me and Frank, headlights ablaze.

SO, how soon do we get dates for 2013 JDog? Got a race schedule to plan!!

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Old 2 Aug 2012, 09:12 (Ref:3115123)   #103
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Just a thought.

The CSCC ran an invitation race for super saloons last year. This year they have a series of four races.

The JD Classic is building up nicely (20 entries for Outlon Park) but these (as has been said, stop at 1985.

Seems to me that if the 1986 to 2000 era was covered by this organisation, it would also garner good grids. And for the Classic, they could combine.
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Old 2 Aug 2012, 10:13 (Ref:3115155)   #104
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Seems to me that if the 1986 to 2000 era was covered by this organisation, it would also garner good grids. And for the Classic, they could combine.
That's what I said!
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My point exactly.
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Well the MRL/JDC series caters for most of that, just cuts out the post 1986 homologation specials like the RS500 and M3, although it is clear that there are many more of the latter cars available to run right now than pre 1986...
Duncan and Ken are getting there there and that series will in itself continue to grow over the next couple of years. I am reasonably confident, based on the gossip and support it is getting, to see more Rovers, one or two 635's, a Volvo, Alfetta GTV6, Metro Turbo along with a host of 1600cc Escort's and the odd Golf's competing sometime in the next 2-3 years alongside the Group 2 CSL's etc.

However, I can think of no better idea than what Jonny had already suggested in inviting the MRL/JDC series to join up with the Fuji lot at the Classic and maybe one or two other major events next season?

One suggestion might be running them alongside the CSCC Special Saloons for example at a few meetings, that would create double the interest for some entrants and spectators alike!

Another one would be looking at trying to get on the newer Historic Festival cards, like the Silverstone one in April, the big Donington one in early May and maybe something at Brands other than the HSCC Historic Superprix?

Then for a few races we could have the best of both ideas (the upto 1986 and post 1986 Group A's) without overly affecting the growth of either of the individual series principles.
Thanks for the reply. So if I want to see the late 80's and 90's super tourers, what would be the best place to look?
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MRL/JDC is up to 1985, so no.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 01:03 (Ref:3158292)   #111
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Just to let everyone know, we are now aligned with the HSCC.

This means they will be handling our race entries and to race in the series you will need HSCC membership. We will also be using their Historic Passports, which will be mandatory for all car's.

We plan to do at least two HSCC meeting's next season alongside the Silverstone Classic.

A real privilege to be recognized and affiliated with such an institution in historic motor racing.
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That's great to hear JDog!! It'll be great to see the newer cars out at meetings. I feel this should compliment what Ken is building up with his pre85 series.
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Old 27 Oct 2012, 15:20 (Ref:3158519)   #114
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I think it is somewhat different to the By box saloons so there is no obvious clash.
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It's not so much the 'clash' aspect, Peter.

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It's not so much the 'clash' aspect, Peter.
Whats the concern?
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JDog, this it good news !

Where will the other races be ? And how many Sup Tourerscdo you expect to come out ?
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Hi

Silverstone Classic is already on the calender for next year we will confirm another couple of races as soon as possible. We are really looking forward to joining the HSCC calender.

I'd like to think we could get at least 10 Super Tourer's out on a regular basis alongside a top notch field of Group A and Group 2 car's.
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Pleased you asked. For me it's a matter of the status of the various series run by the HSCC. The HRSR saloons for many years has had a 40 minute race at the Oulton Park Gold Cup meeting. This year it was reduced to 20 minutes if I remember correctly and the JD Classics race had a 40 minute slot on that day. In fact they (JDC) had a 25 minute practice and a 39 minute race for 11 (eleven) cars. HRSR were alloted 15 minutes practice and 23 minutes of racing for the 38 (thirty eight) cars that turned up. Now do you see my concern?
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Pleased you asked. For me it's a matter of the status of the various series run by the HSCC.
Peter, I think you are right to express that concern and maybe (if you haven't done so) to the HSCC as well.

BUT... Lets speculate that the two meetings under discussion are Brands Hatch Superprix and 3 day Oulton Park Gold Cup. This year HFO pulled out of the former (leaving a gap in schedule), and at BOTH meetings there was space on Saturday morning that was filled with untimed practice. This was criticised by some as a waste of track time.

While I totally agree with your point about the HRSR race at Oulton, if the shedule permitted practice and a 40 or 2 x 20 minute races for Supertourers (or any other invited series) without losing any track time for established series, then for me it all sounds positive.

My concern, Jonny, is that the dates under discussion could clash with the JDCC. If you want Gp2 and GpA (no mention on Gp1?) cars as well you will need to work with MRL on this. Oh, and just remind the odd driver about historic racing being non-contact, please......
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Pleased you asked. For me it's a matter of the status of the various series run by the HSCC. The HRSR saloons for many years has had a 40 minute race at the Oulton Park Gold Cup meeting. This year it was reduced to 20 minutes if I remember correctly and the JD Classics race had a 40 minute slot on that day. In fact they (JDC) had a 25 minute practice and a 39 minute race for 11 (eleven) cars. HRSR were alloted 15 minutes practice and 23 minutes of racing for the 38 (thirty eight) cars that turned up. Now do you see my concern?
Fully understand your comments here but its not really anything i can address!
We spoke to the HSCC and they were keen for us to come on board with them for next season and i must say its a real honor for Grahame to have even considered us.
Surely this is a point that needs to be made to them directly?


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The contact point has already been addressed and discussed and will be strictly policed .

Im happy to be sticking with the same formula as we used at the Classic, we need to tidy up the regs a bit and will be a lot more pro active in eligibility scrutineering.

We are running a series for genuine touring car's, not cars built to regulation's so i see a clear line between what we are aiming for and what other series are doing. Yes there is an overlap in eligible time periods but surely owners and drivers can decide for themselves what they'd like to do? There will be no date clashes.

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Hope your well mate
I'm fine, thanks Jonny, and looking forward to a winter of building and rebuilding

I was only concerned about date clashes with JDCC- possibly the only other series genuine GpA and Gp2 cars would be likely to consider.
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Do you have a preference on the other circuits on the HSCC calender ?

Also is the Silverstone Classic shown as part of the HSCC calender or in addition ?

Be good to see another good grid of cars as raced at the 2012 Classic.
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no preference as yet just need to make a few decisions and see whats available to us. The Classic is in addition to what we are doing with the HSCC. So in total 3 races possibly 4.
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