Rosberg vs Hamilton

[garcon]

I thought that was exactly what happened. It's just that they reached a conclusion you disagree with.

[Peter Mallett]

Hmm,

Didn't Lewis also run across a chicane when he had brake problems?

[garcon]

Yes he did. And handed the place back to Rosberg.

[Peter Mallett]

Fair enough it happened at the point I nodded off!

[garcon]

If we're talking about the same incident. At one point I'm pretty sure Lewis missed the last chicane and in doing so came out in front of Rosberg, so slowed on the pit straight to let Rosberg retake the position.

It's equally likely that I was also nodding off by then and dreamt that part.

[Peter Mallett]

I should add that I was watching it two days later.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by garcon

If we're talking about the same incident. At one point I'm pretty sure Lewis missed the last chicane and in doing so came out in front of Rosberg, so slowed on the pit straight to let Rosberg retake the position.

It's equally likely that I was also nodding off by then and dreamt that part.

Here's the clip of the incident. Hamilton gets passed Roberg and in doing so straightens the chicane. He hands the place back to Rosberg and then Hamilton's car loses power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27757276

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Here's the clip of the incident. Hamilton gets passed Roberg and in doing so straightens the chicane. He hands the place back to Rosberg and then Hamilton's car loses power.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/27757276

This is a very straightforward situation to rectify and I'm sure Rosberg - or anyone else on the grid for that matter - would have done exactly the same. I don't know how you'd go about objectively remedying a time gain though... particularly if it was small.

[p-matt]

I remember a few years ago in Monza they had a strict three chicane cuts and a drive thru is automatically issued. They should reintroduce something similar. 1 strike for a simple track limits transgression, 2 strikes for an incident like rosberg's where failure to adhere to track limits may have resulted in a lost place, 3 strikes if a pass is made by going off track if it isn't ceded. 3 strikes = a penalty. Simple.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by p-matt

I remember a few years ago in Monza they had a strict three chicane cuts and a drive thru is automatically issued. They should reintroduce something similar. 1 strike for a simple track limits transgression, 2 strikes for an incident like rosberg's where failure to adhere to track limits may have resulted in a lost place, 3 strikes if a pass is made by going off track if it isn't ceded. 3 strikes = a penalty. Simple.

Who was it that said to the question back in the day:

"How do we stop them cutting the corner?"

"Build a wall!"


These drive by run offs are just another initiative of the big teams to ensure that he who has the best and fastest equipment is assured of a win, even when he screws up!

[Zico]

Yet again I see Lewis partly showing his hand in and topping the time sheets in the practice sessions while the intelligent Nico seems to sit back, holds off/sandbags, studies Lewis's data and saves it all for Q3.

No it hasn't always worked to Nicos advantage but I cant help but wonder when its finally going to click with 'fastbutdim' what he's up to.

[Adam43]

That's a bit tenuous.

[321Go]

Originally Posted by Zico

Yet again I see Lewis partly showing his hand in and topping the time sheets in the practice sessions

Sessions? Nico topped FP1, Lewis topped FP2. One all.

[Zico]

Originally Posted by 321Go

Sessions? Nico topped FP1, Lewis topped FP2. One all.

FP1 never really counts for anything

Originally Posted by Adam43

That's a bit tenuous.

Yes, perhaps and I'm almost definately completely wrong...



My sincere apologies for talking out my erse , I'm gonna have to steer well clear of the keyboard when hung over in future.

[Adam43]

Probably best.
Nico is the more 'thinking driver'. However that practice session does not show that. Still it was a simple way for you to be able to use the fastbutdim line. Good job.

[Zico]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Still it was a simple way for you to be able to use the fastbutdim line. Good job.

I really rate Lewis as a driver but he can be a bit dim sometimes. Sorry if you found that offensive enough that you felt the need for sarcasm.

[Adam43]

Not insulting you, just thought your point was weak.

[garcon]

Originally Posted by Zico

Sorry if you found that offensive enough that you felt the need for sarcasm.

Says the one who seems to find sarcasm offensive?

How's that hangover?

[Zico]

Originally Posted by garcon

Says the one who seems to find sarcasm offensive?

How's that hangover?

It's fine now thanks, I poofed out, hit the cocodamol and now ready for anything.

[Paradise City]

Hamilton has temperament issues not intelligence issues. Rosberg is more ordered and disciplined. I think Hamilton's overly insular upbringing under McLaren protection is probably responsible.

[canamman]

I have concluded that both of them have a gentlemans agreement
to not be so publically pal'sy wal'sy at the track in order to keep their
competitive edge razor sharp.

[stripedcat]

Originally Posted by Paradise City

Hamilton has temperament issues not intelligence issues. Rosberg is more ordered and disciplined. I think Hamilton's overly insular upbringing under McLaren protection is probably responsible.

Yeah - that's probably about right.

I think that Hamilton is finding Nico is a tougher competitor than he thought that he would be.

[Knowlesy]

Originally Posted by Paradise City

Hamilton has temperament issues not intelligence issues. Rosberg is more ordered and disciplined. I think Hamilton's overly insular upbringing under McLaren protection is probably responsible.

Perfectly put.

You don't reach the top in any sport by being stupid.

[Adam43]

It's pretty close

[Articus]

Originally Posted by canamman

I have concluded that both of them have a gentlemans agreement
to not be so publically pal'sy wal'sy at the track in order to keep their
competitive edge razor sharp.

I would hope so. Hamilton didn't congratulate Rosberg post race. Neither of the 2 even batted an eye at each other. Hamilton just went straight to Bottas. I see nothing wrong. They are bitter rivals. They shouldn't have to be forced to "get along" whether they are teammates or not.