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Old 25 Oct 2014, 10:26 (Ref:3468248)   #1
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Alfa Romeo 156: Winner in Italian Superturismo - Loser in STW

Following the topic about difference between Peugeot 406 STW and BTCC
i'd like to propose you this new topic asking why alfa romeo dominate Italian superturimo with Piedone Giovanardi but has not able to win neither a race in STW with Modena but also with same Giovanardi or Larini when they partecipated.
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 11:02 (Ref:3468255)   #2
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Alfa Romeo simply didn't put as much effort into STW like they did in the DTM. Probably because they considered the German market to be "conquered", thanks to their success in DTM.
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 11:06 (Ref:3468259)   #3
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Shame that planned BTCC entry in 98 never happened
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 11:11 (Ref:3468262)   #4
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Probably had to more to do with pitching their cars against BMW, Audi and VW than anythign else, espeiclaly the 156.

Sadly the road cars never lived up to the hype.

I do recall the 156 being awesome in a straight line, perhaps the best.
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 11:57 (Ref:3468279)   #5
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Alfa Romeo simply didn't put as much effort into STW like they did in the DTM. Probably because they considered the German market to be "conquered", thanks to their success in DTM.
so what is the meaning to partecipate in STW?? it was better dont partecipate and let good memory in german supporter with winning of DTM rather than be at bottom of grid in every race they did.
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 12:02 (Ref:3468280)   #6
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so what is the meaning to partecipate in STW?? it was better dont partecipate and let good memory in german supporter with winning of DTM rather than be at bottom of grid in every race they did.
If I recall correctly, Alfa Corse only ran selected STW races. Norisring in '98 and '99 come to mind, as well as the race at Misano in '99. The other Alfas were just run by privateers, like Franz Engstler for example. Maybe it was enough for Alfa to have "just" some 155s/156s running around in Germany, just to keep the brand in the German racing scene, without spending too many ressources there. After all, the later DTM/ITC years cost a lot of money for Alfa.
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If I recall correctly, Alfa Corse only ran selected STW races. Norisring in '98 and '99 come to mind, as well as the race at Misano in '99. The other Alfas were just run by privateers, like Franz Engstler for example. Maybe it was enough for Alfa to have "just" some 155s/156s running around in Germany, just to keep the brand in the German racing scene, without spending too many ressources there. After all, the later DTM/ITC years cost a lot of money for Alfa.
not at all!
alfa entered officially in STW when DTM was over at the enf of 96.
from season 97 alfa raced in both championship italian and german.

In Germany Modena and Danner in 97, Modena with Giovanardi and Larini just in few race in 98, Modena and some young driver in 99.
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 13:51 (Ref:3468311)   #8
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not at all!
alfa entered officially in STW when DTM was over at the enf of 96.
from season 97 alfa raced in both championship italian and german.
Ah yes, I remember Modena and Danner racing in STW in 1997. However, it wasn't run by Alfa Corse, but by Schübel, if I recall correctly. Feel free, to correct me, though .
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 15:20 (Ref:3468327)   #9
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Ah yes, I remember Modena and Danner racing in STW in 1997. However, it wasn't run by Alfa Corse, but by Schübel, if I recall correctly. Feel free, to correct me, though .

i think it was Euroteam.
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 21:24 (Ref:3468403)   #10
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Why did their 1999 btcc entry not materialise?
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Old 25 Oct 2014, 22:42 (Ref:3468441)   #11
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Euroteam barely got support from Alfa Romeo while entering and developing the 156 in 1998 & 99, they also did not get the same material as Alfa Corse did. i don't understand why as the German championship was a lot more competitive as the Italian Championship.

i remember when STW raced at Misano in 1999, instead of working together Alfa Corse saw Euroteam more as a opponent then as a team that used the same car. i remember the audi or opel teams worked together.

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Why did their 1999 btcc entry not materialise?
I think you mean 1998, but you'll find the reasons here: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...omeo+btcc+1998
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