|
||||||||||
|
||||||||||
28 Mar 2014, 23:07 (Ref:3385852) | #426 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,738
|
I think that 30% is very good, considering they almost doubled the capacity of the supercapacitor and added the front MGU (and its driveshafts).
|
|
|
29 Mar 2014, 05:17 (Ref:3385926) | #427 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 4,755
|
||
|
29 Mar 2014, 07:04 (Ref:3385943) | #428 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 734
|
|||
__________________
Eat, sleep, race, repeat. |
29 Mar 2014, 07:27 (Ref:3385947) | #429 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,738
|
I think that he is referring to the low drag wheels
|
|
|
29 Mar 2014, 08:54 (Ref:3385973) | #430 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,392
|
The weight of the supercap was something around 80kg. Im guessing weight increase is mostly from the additional electric motor rather than the capacitor. Since he was specifying the whole system.
|
|
|
29 Mar 2014, 09:03 (Ref:3385974) | #431 | ||
Race Official
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 3,129
|
|
||
__________________
BoP = egalitarianism |
29 Mar 2014, 09:15 (Ref:3385975) | #432 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 662
|
On RIM last night it stated that they have only added the front mgu. They haven't added another supercap.
|
||
|
29 Mar 2014, 09:26 (Ref:3385982) | #433 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,392
|
||
|
29 Mar 2014, 09:28 (Ref:3385985) | #434 | |||
Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 662
|
Quote:
Just clarifying for that the haven't added another supercap. |
|||
|
29 Mar 2014, 11:23 (Ref:3386016) | #435 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,999
|
||
__________________
For when your year runs from June to June - '11/'12/'13/'14/'15/'16/'17/'18/'19/xx/'21/'22/'23 Instagram: rsmotorsportmedia |
29 Mar 2014, 18:54 (Ref:3386168) | #436 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,392
|
Seems like the #8 high downforce or sprint package was the faster car today.
|
|
|
29 Mar 2014, 19:14 (Ref:3386175) | #437 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,240
|
Are available somewhere pics of the "saturday" #8? because that 322km/h of top speed doesn't fit a lot the HD package used friday...
http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/pho...ais/?nggpage=4 Indeed was clearly using the low drag package. The #8 in HD was a lot slower compared to audi, for silverston I expect both audi fighting for the win. |
|
|
29 Mar 2014, 19:31 (Ref:3386189) | #438 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,392
|
Quote:
|
||
|
29 Mar 2014, 19:37 (Ref:3386191) | #439 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,738
|
||
|
29 Mar 2014, 19:50 (Ref:3386200) | #440 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,392
|
Was going to post that second picture. Nice detail of the front end, can see the circle brake cooling inlets and looks like part of the electric motor?
|
|
|
29 Mar 2014, 19:53 (Ref:3386203) | #441 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,738
|
No, that is the reservoir of the brake liquid.
|
|
|
29 Mar 2014, 19:55 (Ref:3386204) | #442 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,392
|
||
|
29 Mar 2014, 19:59 (Ref:3386207) | #443 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,392
|
||
|
29 Mar 2014, 20:00 (Ref:3386209) | #444 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,269
|
|||
__________________
When in doubt? C4. |
29 Mar 2014, 20:02 (Ref:3386210) | #445 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,738
|
Indeed. On that picture the front drive shaft can not be viewed.
|
|
|
29 Mar 2014, 20:09 (Ref:3386214) | #446 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,392
|
Im using a phone right now so I had to zoom in. The dark area behind the steering arm above the brake inlets is what caught my eye, but just looks like a suspension piece. I thought it may have been connected to the motor, but its too high up.
|
|
|
30 Mar 2014, 00:43 (Ref:3386299) | #447 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 889
|
Quote:
umm... not conclusive, but it seems the brake disks themselves are kind of small and very poorly "air" cooled if at all... perhaps no need... Also the "mechanic" is in front... but there doesn't seem to be there a reasonable big Front Differential between the 2 half axles... so perhaps the front electric motor is relatively very small... unless its electric motors and are "inside the wheels hubs themselves" ( which BTW are much bigger than normal), axial flux kind of electric motors comes to mind (HUGE huge torque!)... But doesn't the rules mandate only 1 motor per ERS ? ... yet there could be a central electric motor( small) in a central position at front, plus 2 generators ( of the axial kind), one inside each front wheel hub... I don't think the rules mandates both processes *motor and generator* must be integrated in a single unit, only a single motor for each ERS, that is, a single inverter + control, since is this what is regulated and monitored, and "generation" ( recuperative braking regeneration) can be "separated" and kind of free!... Last edited by hcl123; 30 Mar 2014 at 01:07. |
||
|
30 Mar 2014, 10:38 (Ref:3386476) | #448 | |
Veteran
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 15,392
|
Right, not allowed two motors on one axel (sadly). This was what the Supra HVR used in 2007. Toyotas motors are small. Their suppliers (or owned ompanies rather) have been making hybrid components for a long time. They must be good at it by now after a decade+ of hybrid cars.
|
|
|
30 Mar 2014, 13:02 (Ref:3386581) | #449 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,869
|
Maybe I've never worked on an LMP1 before (unless an Avalon counts) but it looks to me that whatever source feeds the red flex tubes is directly fed to the entire disc with no waste. As for the rotors being small, aren't the wheels smaller in diameter? That would warrant a smaller brake package. If I was trying to save weight I also wouldn't fit anything bigger than what's needed to stop the car. It seems they have found an adequate solution.
|
||
|
30 Mar 2014, 18:30 (Ref:3386730) | #450 | ||
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,827
|
Wheels are still 18" diameter, rim width is narrower by about an inch in a half.
Brake rotors are allowed to be 15" diameter. They look small because of all the cooling/ducting crap that they're shrouded in now. |
||
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Audi LMP1 Discussion | gwyllion | ACO Regulated Series | 11685 | 16 Feb 2017 10:42 |
Nissan LMP1 Discussion | Gingers4Justice | Sportscar & GT Racing | 5568 | 17 Feb 2016 23:22 |
Strakka LMP1 discussion | Pontlieue | Sportscar & GT Racing | 56 | 12 Jul 2015 19:12 |
The never ending Toyota return to Le Mans (LMP1) Saga | The Badger | ACO Regulated Series | 6844 | 8 Jan 2014 02:19 |
How about a LMP1 Pro & LMP1 Privateer class | Holt | Sportscar & GT Racing | 35 | 6 Jun 2012 13:44 |