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16 Mar 2012, 07:20
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996 was first homologoted as a gt3, It would be a real shame if we had to wait til 2014 for the 991 rsr, that wiykd mean the 458 and the 991 RSR would only race head to head for 1, maybe 2 years, since the replacement for the 458 is due out i n 2014
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To launch a new FIA GT2 category based on strict technical rules, with limited wavers and ‘balance of performance' limited to success ballast. A category where GT manufacturers will prove through competition they can produce the best road going GT car.
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16 Mar 2012, 07:35
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Yes, Its quite a shame.
Then there is of course, certain rumors saying that this will be the last 911 RSR.
I don't know if there is any veracity to these rumors , but anything is possible.
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16 Mar 2012, 09:50
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I seriously doubt that, as that would break the tradition of racing 911 at le mans that's ~40 years old..
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16 Mar 2012, 10:07
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Agreed, but that needs to be placed in contrast to the equally as old tradition of Porsche being competitive in what ever class they race in.
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16 Mar 2012, 10:24
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I thought that was an extension of their road car philosophy...
I think it would do more harm then good to their image if they pulled out, then if they stayed and be slightly less competitive...
Although I don't see how they can be less competitive with the 991, they are advertising it as a giant improvement to the 997, to me its logical to also prove it on the race track.
P.S. IF they do pull out it will be a shallow victory for Ferrari (me), yeah they (Ferrari) would have proven that their platform is better, but at the cost of being left to fight with second rate cars.
P.S.S. the above is only relevant if they do pull out.
P.S.S.S....sorry about the ssss, don't flame me for being of the opinion all other makes in GT are second rate to Ferrari and Porsche, when and if they achieve 10% of what Ferrari and Porsche have done in motorsport I will begin to treat them with respect. (corvette is gaining on me, but the blatant BOP use to get them fast is ticking me off at the same time)
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16 Mar 2012, 10:30
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Maybe the Corvettes were restricted down in GT2/E form because of fears from the ACO they'd 'GT1' the GT2 field?
Wasn't there something about Porsche building a V8 powered mid engine rival to the 458? Maybe they'll introduce that, drop the 911 and then expand that into the 911's range (i.e replace 911 with 961 (if I remember correctly that's what it is to be called?))
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16 Mar 2012, 10:36
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16 Mar 2012, 10:38
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Maybe the Corvettes were restricted down in GT2/E form because of fears from the ACO they'd 'GT1' the GT2 field?
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Haha, the corvettes have been helped so much in GTE that its ridiculous. Not ever have they been restricted in any way, except by the inadequacies of their car
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16 Mar 2012, 10:41
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We don't know if the car is inadequate or not because they haven't been allowed to race it unrestricted
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16 Mar 2012, 10:45
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We don't know if the car is inadequate or not because they haven't been allowed to race it unrestricted 
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what are you talking about, they are more unrestricted then anyone else, except maybe BMW...
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16 Mar 2012, 11:00
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16 Mar 2012, 11:32
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Quote:
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I thought that was an extension of their road car philosophy...
I think it would do more harm then good to their image if they pulled out, then if they stayed and be slightly less competitive...
Although I don't see how they can be less competitive with the 991, they are advertising it as a giant improvement to the 997, to me its logical to also prove it on the race track.
P.S. IF they do pull out it will be a shallow victory for Ferrari (me), yeah they (Ferrari) would have proven that their platform is better, but at the cost of being left to fight with second rate cars.
P.S.S. the above is only relevant if they do pull out.
P.S.S.S....sorry about the ssss, don't flame me for being of the opinion all other makes in GT are second rate to Ferrari and Porsche, when and if they achieve 10% of what Ferrari and Porsche have done in motorsport I will begin to treat them with respect. (corvette is gaining on me, but the blatant BOP use to get them fast is ticking me off at the same time)
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No they wont pull out. Porsche will always have a GT motorpsort product to sell. It might just not be the 911 for ACO racing. (if you see what I'm getting at?)
Anyway, they are just rumors. No need to take them seriously at this point.
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16 Mar 2012, 12:33
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Last year Corvettes problems werent due to entirely inequivalent restrictors. They appeared to suffer from understeer which had a bad effect on front tire wear. The could not get the front tires to last.
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16 Mar 2012, 12:45
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At least they are true to their heritage,
"American cars aren't built to go around corners"
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16 Mar 2012, 12:57
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Quote:
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At least they are true to their heritage,
"American cars aren't built to go around corners"
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