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23 Apr 2009, 16:58
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2010 new teams = too many cars?
Currently we have 10 teams, 3 teams have announced possible intent for 2010 (USGPE, Lola, ProDrive) simple math tells me we may have 26 cars vying for 24 spots on the grid. We will see a return of pre-qualifying or is someone leaving??? Bernie perhaps expanding the grid size? I don't know if all tracks have garage facilities for this many or have they dropped all the races at tracks with antiquated pit areas? Are the Lola & ProDrive projects related?
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23 Apr 2009, 17:01
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All tracks will have enough space if teams get given less pit boxes. Bear in mind that there are more than three that could be wanting to get in. The current limit is 24. However, that can be changed. One thing that I don't want is a return to pre-qualifying as that could be a bit of a problem for the teams that get DNPQs, as they would get no TV coverage on the major weekend sessions.
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23 Apr 2009, 18:10
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Would it not be possible to air Pre-Qualifying if it were to happen?
We're talking a good 15 years ago since the last time this happened, and what with the red button additions over the past few years..?
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23 Apr 2009, 20:48
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I wonder about the existing teams and their thoughts on this. I'm sure i remember the grid being cut down to a maximum of 12 teams to make sure each teams value was kept up?
I'm all for as many cars on the grid as possible providing they are fast enough to compete.
I don't want to see cars at the back of the grid 4-5 seconds off the pace.
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23 Apr 2009, 21:03
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Would it not be possible to air Pre-Qualifying if it were to happen?
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You wouldn't need pre-qualifying, just qualifying!
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We're talking a good 15 years ago since the last time this happened, and what with the red button additions over the past few years..?
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There was over 30 cars when they did this.
Whatever I don't think we'll have a problem with too many cars.
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23 Apr 2009, 21:20
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I don't think the amount of cars and pit boxes are the problem, more that teams just bring so much stuff with them and get much bigger garages compared to the pre-qualifying days. Cut down on both those counts and I'm sure 26 cars will be no problem.
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23 Apr 2009, 22:59
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You wouldn't need pre-qualifying, just qualifying!
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After thinking about it, you are right. They could leave it as it now and with 26 cars eliminate the slowest 8 cars from each of the first 2 sessions.
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23 Apr 2009, 23:12
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Well with the loss of Renault, Toyota and Williams, I done think you'll have to worry.
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23 Apr 2009, 23:48
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Well with the loss of Renault, Toyota and Williams, I done think you'll have to worry.
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oooh! controversial! And not forgetting McLaren of course. 
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24 Apr 2009, 00:14
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oooh! controversial! And not forgetting McLaren of course. |
Now Ron's gone, the sooner we forget about McLaren the better.
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24 Apr 2009, 00:59
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I don't want to see cars at the back of the grid 4-5 seconds off the pace.
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Agreed, but hopefully with the budget-cap being introduced there will be more of a level playing field, and we won't see teams more than 2 seconds off the pace.
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24 Apr 2009, 01:29
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Well with the loss of Renault, Toyota and Williams, I done think you'll have to worry.
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Would Toyota really want to give up, when, after all these years they finally have a competitive car?
I can see them withdrawing as a team and just supplying engines to Williams (and Force India?)...
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24 Apr 2009, 03:08
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I can't remember where I read it today but Bernie said he wants 13 teams next year, and there is talk he may be offering packages to help them. There have been rumours of approaches by as many as 6 new teams. Obivously they won't all happen and we may lose a team so if it is 13 teams Bernie wants, I suspect it will be 13 teams Bernie gets.
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24 Apr 2009, 06:43
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I think that some major will leave.
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24 Apr 2009, 11:12
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The fact that 3 new teams are seemingly very interested in joining ht eparty, surly indicates that cost cutting measures are seen as likely to succeed. In which case, I wonder why any current teams would pull out now, just when costs are apparently going down?
What is happening with Torro Rosso. I have even lost track of who owns that team now?
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