2010 new teams = too many cars? - Page 2 - 10-Tenths Motorsport Forum

Burnsie · 24 Apr 2009, 11:22

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Originally Posted by steve_r

What is happening with Torro Rosso. I have even lost track of who owns that team now?

It's still owned by Dietrich Mateschitz, who also owns the Red Bull team.

**chunterer** · 24 Apr 2009, 11:25

I'm almost of the opinion that a series can never have too many entrants?

Yes there will need to be a grid limit, i'm thinking 26 as we had a few years ago and certainly most venues are perfectly able to cater for that number, maybe with teams losing a garage space at the older venues if necessary.

I'd actually love to see grids of 30 cars, but at somewhere like Monaco that would obviously be a no-no!

Marbot · 24 Apr 2009, 13:48

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Originally Posted by chunterer

I'd actually love to see grids of 30 cars, but at somewhere like Monaco that would obviously be a no-no!

It would be very interesting though wouldn't it ?

Yannick · 24 Apr 2009, 14:09

26 cars on the grid was always OK. The pits of most racetracs run on these days should be large enough to allow for 30 entries even.
Good luck to all the new entries for their campaigns.

But please, no more pre-qualifying. Teams that don't pre-qualify just aren't sustainable in the long run. So the maximum number of entries should really be at 30 cars.

Lola · 24 Apr 2009, 15:52

Who cares if the pit allocation is one garage per car etc. Is it just me when I think of the amount of cars in the 80's was great. Even if some of them were complete dogs built from spaghetti in some Italian back street garage. They were interesting. Its what F1 needs to get rid of this sterile elitist environment where it is now.
It gave another angle to watch GP racing. Remember 1992 when Hill got that Brabham onto the grid at Silverstone? You will start watching both ends of the grid. It might dilute what we have now but with the proposed budget cap cant see it ever happening) it will be achievable.

Gingers4Justice · 24 Apr 2009, 17:23

Crikey, what a state Formula One has got into if 24 is 'too many' cars.

**Adam43** · 24 Apr 2009, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

After thinking about it, you are right. They could leave it as it now and with 26 cars eliminate the slowest 8 cars from each of the first 2 sessions.

Qualifying methods can change, but there is more than that. In 1989 there were 39 cars entered (I think the maximum). Prequalifying took the 'worse' cars over the allowed 26 starters and these prequalified to get get into qualifying proper. However 30 cars were allowed in qualifying, made up of the other 26 and four from pre-qualifying. These 30 then battled it out for 26 places.
I think 'worse' was bottom of the constructors, or newbie, over the last half a season - something like that!

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Originally Posted by Yannick

But please, no more pre-qualifying. Teams that don't pre-qualify just aren't sustainable in the long run. So the maximum number of entries should really be at 30 cars.

Well that will self-fulfil what you are saying so I have no problem with it!

Canada ALMS fan · 24 Apr 2009, 22:28

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Qualifying methods can change, but there is more than that. In 1989 there were 39 cars entered (I think the maximum). Prequalifying took the 'worse' cars over the allowed 26 starters and these prequalified to get get into qualifying proper. However 30 cars were allowed in qualifying, made up of the other 26 and four from pre-qualifying. These 30 then battled it out for 26 places.
I think 'worse' was bottom of the constructors, or newbie, over the last half a season - something like that!Well that will self-fulfil what you are saying so I have no problem with it!

If we had 39 cars to watch I could live with watching pre-qualifying.

The reliability of some of the lesser entries used to add a wild card to the races, the cars now are so reliable we no longer have that sadly.

White flag man · 24 Apr 2009, 23:08

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Originally Posted by chunterer

I'm almost of the opinion that a series can never have too many entrants?

Yes there will need to be a grid limit, i'm thinking 26 as we had a few years ago and certainly most venues are perfectly able to cater for that number, maybe with teams losing a garage space at the older venues if necessary.

I'd actually love to see grids of 30 cars, but at somewhere like Monaco that would obviously be a no-no!

I'd love to see 30 cars and all the excitement, including pre qualifying, that goes with it, but in today's financial climate I don't think it is possible.
As for Monaco being a no-no, that would be another bonus. The Monaco GP is not a race, for it to be a race you have to be able to overtake!

**Bononi** · 24 Apr 2009, 23:56

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Originally Posted by climb

I think that some major will leave.

Yeah, that one !

f1manoz · 25 Apr 2009, 18:54

I see no reason why we can't return to the days of 26 car grids. Hell, why not more teams and more cars. That would be fantastic to see.

duke_toaster · 25 Apr 2009, 19:03

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Originally Posted by f1manoz

I see no reason why we can't return to the days of 26 car grids. Hell, why not more teams and more cars. That would be fantastic to see.

26 is fine, but anything over 30 could be a problem with circuit facilities. Pre-qualifying in this day and age is unlikely to be viable, unless it were to get vast amounts of TV coverage.