'Return of the Thunder' Sandown - Nov 7-8 - 10-Tenths Motorsport Forum

Bullett · 2 Nov 2009, 08:33

Huge fields for Sandown this weekend,

31 Biante Touring Car Masters
21 Group Q,R and Formula 5000 Racing Cars
23 Group A & C Touring Cars
35 Historic Touring Cars Under 3000cc
26 Historic Touring Cars Over 3000cc
41 Group Sb & Sc Sportscars
47 Formula Fords
37 MG's
27 Group M,O,P Racing Cars
35 Group J,K,Lb
93 Regularity Competitors

Should be a pretty good weekend, Anyone heading out?

Silver 3 · 2 Nov 2009, 08:43

I reckon the crowd will be bigger than any other meeting in Victoria that weekend!

Rachel Richards · 2 Nov 2009, 09:54

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Originally Posted by Silver 3

I reckon the crowd will be bigger than any other meeting in Victoria that weekend!

Silver, I agree, and hope so too.

I'll be at Winton, as I committed to at the start of the year, but I'd be at Sandown if I was in town.

Two great days of wonderful Melbourne Spring weather are forecast.

I'd think close to 8 - 10 K on Sunday.

I just hope that 30 deg isn't too hot for some of those old British sports & race cars.

Might see a few "boiling billies" over the weekend.

PVDA · 3 Nov 2009, 21:29

Oh, and forgot to mention.

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Originally Posted by Rachel Richards

I'll be at Winton, as I committed to at the start of the year, but I'd be at Sandown if I was in town.

Same here, Sandown Historics is a great event.

Big_Trev · 2 Nov 2009, 17:38

That is a good field

Axeman444 · 2 Nov 2009, 22:57

stupid question for the day, do group N fit into the Historic Touring Cars Under/Over 3000cc classes, or are they not going to be present?

Bullett · 3 Nov 2009, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

stupid question for the day, do group N fit into the Historic Touring Cars Under/Over 3000cc classes, or are they not going to be present?

Yes, sorry that is Group N over 3000cc and under 3000cc

PVDA · 3 Nov 2009, 01:32

Anyone who suggests a Biante Series car is a Group N risks being shot on sight by the Grp N fraternity.

Axeman444 · 3 Nov 2009, 01:49

and probably quite rightly so?

Rob Bailey · 3 Nov 2009, 05:04

like a old movie being re run again and again.

TOOTHFAIRY · 3 Nov 2009, 09:39

What a fantastic weekend ahead for the VHRR, and all their hard working people, in the real historic world, there's NO drama between Biante and Historic touring cars, each has it's own deal, I've got friends in both Catagories, the real truth is most paying punters don't know the difference, anyway. Both serve a purpose, Biante is high end, big dollar, main game stuff, HTC is good close racing, at a pick your price cost. I run a HTC, but 20 of my mates run Biante, and some are staying at my place over the weekend, bad luck I have to go to Winton, with my son, otherwise he'd be kickin butt at Sandown, best we do that at Winton, Hope EVEYONE has a great weekend at Sandown, and I'm hoping we come home with a Championship from Winton. Look out at P/I Classic, we''ll be there, looking for the lap Record.

275 GTB-4 · 4 Nov 2009, 11:29

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Originally Posted by TOOTHFAIRY

What a fantastic weekend ahead for the VHRR, and all their hard working people, in the real historic world, there's NO drama between Biante and Historic touring cars, each has it's own deal, I've got friends in both Catagories, the real truth is most paying punters don't know the difference, anyway. Both serve a purpose, , HTC is good close racing, at a pick your price cost. I run a HTC, but 20 of my mates run Biante, and some are staying at my place over the weekend, bad luck I have to go to Winton, with my son, otherwise he'd be kickin butt at Sandown, best we do that at Winton, Hope EVEYONE has a great weekend at Sandown, and I'm hoping we come home with a Championship from Winton. Look out at P/I Classic, we''ll be there, looking for the lap Record.

Looks like a terrific event,,,anyone know how mant F5000s are turning up??

and TF, whilst I sort of get where you are coming from,,,I have to disagree with "Biante is high end, big dollar, main game stuff"

Just because a few people have enough dosh to take cars around following the V8 Supercars and have lobbied to be able to spend even more dollars on unfettered mechanical mods does not mean they have suddenly become the main game!! Its sort of an insult to all the other drivers and fine machinery out there all around Australia. Don't get me wrong...I used to admire the likes of Brad Tilley for his car prep and driving ability long ago when he was an Nc regular and he and Bug Jum etc put on a good show.

The wider historic movement (to me) has a much bigger appeal than a few show ponies (joking) from a narrow era of Tin Top racing.

Bullett · 4 Nov 2009, 12:37

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Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

Looks like a terrific event,,,anyone know how mant F5000s are turning up??

Andrew Robson
D'arcy Russell
Brian Sala in Bill Hemmings Elfin
Paul Trevethan
Robert Harborow

TOOTHFAIRY · 5 Nov 2009, 10:22

275 GTB, I don't really think you understand historic touring cars, as Biante is high end chase the V8 circus stuff, that's what it was originated as. It was originally started to show case HTC, to a larger audience, at big events, and give the everyday competitor a chance to run in big time events, and widen his or her horizons. We started out at the V8's in 2002, as log booked HTC, and ran that way until 2006 I think .The current batch of Biante cars are logbooked as NON historic cars and run a BLUE logbook, meaning a HTC car can't run in Biante, and a Biante logged car can;t run as a HTC. I do have a little knowledge of the series as I was the first national administrator for the series, and up until the changes ran in many of the races all over Australia. And am in constant touch with the current board. It is a great series, and the guys who run it and race in it are all passionate about the sport, but it is much more expensive to run than a HTC, in all areas. And just a bit of tongue in cheek, there is no other historic catagory that floats peoples boats more than a HTC or a Biante Muscle Car !!!!!

Rob Bailey · 5 Nov 2009, 11:14

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Originally Posted by 275 GTB-4

Looks like a terrific event,,,anyone know how mant F5000s are turning up??

and TF, whilst I sort of get where you are coming from,,,I have to disagree with "Biante is high end, big dollar, main game stuff"

Just because a few people have enough dosh to take cars around following the V8 Supercars and have lobbied to be able to spend even more dollars on unfettered mechanical mods does not mean they have suddenly become the main game!! Its sort of an insult to all the other drivers and fine machinery out there all around Australia. Don't get me wrong...I used to admire the likes of Brad Tilley for his car prep and driving ability long ago when he was an Nc regular and he and Bug Jum etc put on a good show.

The wider historic movement (to me) has a much bigger appeal than a few show ponies (joking) from a narrow era of Tin Top racing.

IMO if the HCC goon's (pass the port) crowd had allowed certain mods to the cars,a break away group would never have happened.