Yas Marina 2011

[Peat]

Obviously, a fantastic facility and a visually stunning place for a Grand Prix. But could the circuit be tweeked slightly to be more fun to drive and possibly provide better overtaking opportunities?

I had a little play with the layout:



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It would take relativley little work to complete and would improve the place in my opinion.

Source picture: http://automiddleeast.com/wp-content...na-Circuit.jpg

[ScotsBrutesFan]

Looks like you have linked to the thumbnail rather than the full size image.

[Peat]

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Ah, we'll try this one!

[Peat]

I am not entirely happy with my solution for the hairpin leading onto the main straight. But, the track 'needs' to run right into that stadium grandstand otherwise its a waste of time.

One of the problems i have noticed and tried to remedy is that the 2 current braking zones are into chicanes which force the the cars into line-a-stirn formation. Hopefully with this configuration, the overtaken car has a chance to grab the place back at the following corner.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

[Duff_44]

This might seem strange but I'd keep the circuit exactly like it is...

But I'd run it in the opposite direction.

It might be a bit of a problem reconfiguring some of the track with limited runoff, but I think it would actually improve the passing opportunities.

[bio]

I don't see the improvement here, to be frank...

Sorry

bio

[Birddog07]

Only thing I'd like done is for the cars to take the S-bend they bypass after turn 3. Otherwise I don't think there is anything wrong with the circuit, it's the cars that can't overtake. Watch the V8SC (which they take the infield sort of corkscrew bypass, pretty good layout, possibly even for F1, but that won't happen because there are no stands) or GT1 races, tons of action.

[ScotsBrutesFan]

2 minor mods from me, though the first will cause more issues than it solves, namely the stupid and gimicky pit exit.

First do away with T4 and move the longer straight "infield" a bit, with the chicane then right-left (opposite of current) this would give F1 cars the larger radius hairpin leading onto the back straight.
Alternately knock a hole in the grandstand like they have done at the other end of the long straight creating run off, and allow F1 cars through T4 all the way along the straight to the hairpin.

Secondly at the other fast section, does the circuit actually need another chicane. The 90 left is fair enough, but why not then continue into an opening left hander that then feeds into the "street" section.

[ECW Dan Selby]

I like that, SBF.

My one preference in sector 1 would be to still use T2 and 3, but add the next set of curves to it, too (you can see a left/right kink just after them). That way you'd have the potential to bypass the chicane before the hairpin, which I think potentially kills the opportunity for an overtake in to the hairpin.

Selby

[Teretonga]

Originally Posted by Birddog07

Only thing I'd like done is for the cars to take the S-bend they bypass after turn 3. Otherwise I don't think there is anything wrong with the circuit, it's the cars that can't overtake. Watch the V8SC (which they take the infield sort of corkscrew bypass, pretty good layout, possibly even for F1, but that won't happen because there are no stands) or GT1 races, tons of action.

Yes.
Its the cars that are the problem more than the circuit but there seems to be a lack of hearing in F1.
Until they wake up to the fact that excessive aero generated down force and wake turbulance is the reason they will not make progress.

The ideas displayed have some merit. Getting rid of the chicane before the street/marina section is a good idea but I would still like to see the esses sweeping up to the start of the main straight.

[Peat]

Originally Posted by Teretonga

Yes.
Its the cars that are the problem more than the circuit but there seems to be a lack of hearing in F1.

You say that, but even the GP2 boys were having difficulties passing. usually ended in contact/spins. The main stops are pinched too tight.

[Teretonga]

Originally Posted by Peat

You say that, but even the GP2 boys were having difficulties passing. usually ended in contact/spins. The main stops are pinched too tight.

This opens them up a bit..... in several places. The changes come in the turn 4-5 area, then at the end of the back straight where the chicane opens out into a faster right hander before leading up the back straight.
Once there the left-right-left chicane has been replaced in the second part by sweeping curves leading to a fast left hander on to come back towards the marina. The two right hand kinks have also been opened up into a longer double apex curve before the hard right hander. the rest of the lap is as per normal.

Its a hard cicuit to change too much because of all the building around it and i still think the problem with passing is the cars, not the circuits anyway. Yas Marina one included. The circuit design has exacerbated the car problems though.

[Purist]

Adding more of those bends in ahead of Turns 5-7 is only going to hurt overtaking potential at that end of the circuit; so, SBF's proposal is the best in that respect.

If anything, tightenting Turn 8 and 9 will hurt overtaking into 11, becuase of the added impact on the accordion effect in those corners. And I don't think loosening up Turn 9 will help the racing noticeably, though it could make that sequence a bit more fun. Therefore, I could take or leave that change, Teretonga.

Turns 11-13 as they are can set up some interesting criss-cross passing maneuvers. If I did change that sequence, I'd go with Teretonga's version, I think. I do like the changes Teretonga has made to Turns 14-16, though passing into 17 will always be rather tricky, as you are still carrying the cornering loads from Turn 16 when you have to hit the brakes for 17.

If it were up to me, I'd just go straight past the Turn 5-6 chicane into the Turn 7 hairpin. I would also loosen up Turn 20. After that, I'd strongly consider redoing Turns 12-16 as Teretonga has them in his diagram.

[Matt]

Here's mine, just some changing of minor things.

[dyewat808]

Originally Posted by Matt

Here's mine, just some changing of minor things.

Yeh, that one is the sort of thing I'd do too - just simplify bits of it.