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12 Jan 2011, 11:23
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Challenge - Spa + Herr Tilke :)
A conversation at another thread gave me this idea... Let's play a little, shall we?
Here's the deal: Imagine you're Herr Tilke. Then imagine that Bernie drank too much - or lost a bet to you. So, he gives you the task of modifying the Spa circuit and shape it according to your taste.
Forget the terrain. Forget the site boundaries. Forget the traditions. Spit Spa's spirit in the face and turn it into a Tilkedrome!
Come on, butchers.
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12 Jan 2011, 11:24
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HAHA alright, i'm well up for this.
I've never seen a topic intensionally encourage bad butchering!!
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12 Jan 2011, 11:56
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As you can see, the first change is Eau Rouge. Now a tight chicane, this will not only fail to improve overtaking but will also ruin the character of the circuit to Herman's level of satisfaction.
Les Combes is the same, Herman loves medium speed chicanes, but Rivage has now been split into 2 90degree corners, again allowing for more theoretical overtaking.
Although it can't be seen on the map, Pouhon is now a quadruple apex left hander, based on Turn 8 at Istanbul. The Fagnes chicane/Stavelot is now a sequence of three tight hairpins. We all know tight hairpins increase overtaking so to have three in a row will create some breathtaking slow speed action. The Bus Stop is unaltered. Tilke wanted to keep some of essence of the old circuit.
It must also be pointed out, each corner has 1.4km of tarmac run off on the exit.
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12 Jan 2011, 12:20
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lmao Oh cmon, poor Mr Tilke  ...
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12 Jan 2011, 12:26
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JackN,
you captured the spirit spot on! Exactly what I meant with this challenge! 
My favourite is your Eau Rouge 
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12 Jan 2011, 12:42
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I'm actually going to have a semi-serious go at this... Semi-serious
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12 Jan 2011, 12:52
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Was just about to do it but Photoshop's broke on my computer at work  Just about sums up my day, unfortunately.
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12 Jan 2011, 13:26
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Oops...
Herr Tilke did your PC in...
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12 Jan 2011, 13:59
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If he did, i'd be having to sit on the other side of the room for health and safety reasons
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12 Jan 2011, 16:01
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Here we go...
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12 Jan 2011, 16:23
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Haha I like what you've done with Pouhon!
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12 Jan 2011, 17:12
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Hasn't Tilke already had his hands on the Bus-Stop/S/F and Pit Buildings?
Even Herrman Tilke would disagree with those changes Dan, there is just no need for those sharp corners at Pouhon, not at such high speeds and at such a steep downhill section, there should be enough run-off there already. As for the section between the Bus-stop and Les Fagnes.. Not sure that would be necessary even to Tilkes mind either..
He would also most likely shorten it in the style of Hockenheim.
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12 Jan 2011, 17:27
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http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4229552
I've tried to at least be a little sensible. The obligatory chicane at Eau Rouge, a new hairpin at Les Combes bypassing Malmedy and Rivage, quadruple-apexation of Pouhon in the style of turn 8 at Istanbul, then a hairpin cutting out Les Fagnes and Stavelot
It's not actually that bad a circuit...
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12 Jan 2011, 18:22
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Nicky,
I guess I wasn't clear enough - I meant this challenge to be sarcastic, to inflate the bad things, to be a caricature. What you say is absolutely true - but this was what i had in mind
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12 Jan 2011, 18:24
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Jab,
fantastic job!
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