Porsche LMP1 return for 2014 confirmed!

[CTD]

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Apparently he is going to buy the ALMS from Don Panoz, but because he is Brian France's twin brother, he will shut the series down and all sports car racing is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.

In North America...

[FordCosworthPanoz]

Originally Posted by CTD

In North America...

Well, ignoring all of my sarcasm,sorry to say but I think you may actually be correct about that.

[The Badger]

Are JLOC & Guess Racing planning on buying the ALMS or entering the F1 circus as well then ?

[Mal]

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

And if that doesnt happen, then we can speculate about Porsche Joining F1 in 2022, and if that doesnt happen then 2030. Also, if Porsche never joins F1 then we can constantly speculate about Audi joining F1 with Williams, Red Bull, Colin Kolles or Count Chocula.

Ridicule all you like but there was a story last week that said the VAG chairman had mentioned the possibility of a VAG brand joining F1 in 2018. As Porsche is a VAG brand I felt it was worth mentioning the possibility. It was more than just idle speculation - but you were to tied up in your p*** taking to realise it

[FordCosworthPanoz]

Originally Posted by Mal

Ridicule all you like but there was a story last week that said the VAG chairman had mentioned the possibility of a VAG brand joining F1 in 2018. As Porsche is a VAG brand I felt it was worth mentioning the possibility. It was more than just idle speculation - but you were to tied up in your p*** taking to realise it

Yes, you are right, and I was aware of this article before I started “p*** taking”, in fact here it is: http://www.livemint.com/2011/07/2815...der-F1-in.html

My “p*** taking” was not bashing you at all, what I was bashing in addition to several internet rumour sources on other topics (such as Autosport) was VW itself. We keep hearing from them and their brands that they are going to join F1, over and over again, yet it NEVER happens. Also, I did realise something else in this article:

“We have enough brands that could do that,” he said, without being more specific.

Now, just think why he would say this.

[The Badger]

Dont like the idea of Penske being interested ..... doesnt like spending his own money ..... like he doesnt have much !!!

Much prefer to see someone else get the deal , if it happens .

[Audi Racer]

but atleast we know Penske gets the job done right?

[The Badger]

Yes they do ..... done more than most . Wheres the competition in that , with the currant quality of "P" teams in the ALMS .

Walkover ..... would not be enticing for other potential teams either .

[yamato]

It seems to me that at least two of the acura teams were able to compete with Penske last time they were in the ALMS,.... and that was with modified Courage chasis.

I would submit that the teams/drivers/car designers exist that could battle on terms with Porsche/Penske,... the question is: does the money exist?

doubtful at best

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by The Badger

Dont like the idea of Penske being interested ..... doesnt like spending his own money ..... like he doesnt have much !!!

Much prefer to see someone else get the deal , if it happens .

So what you are saying, is you would prefer a semi-pro team to lead Porsche's charge, instead of a pro team?

[Audi Racer]

Originally Posted by yamato

It seems to me that at least two of the acura teams were able to compete with Penske last time they were in the ALMS,.... and that was with modified Courage chasis.

I would submit that the teams/drivers/car designers exist that could battle on terms with Porsche/Penske,... the question is: does the money exist?

doubtful at best

Well only one team technically....Highcroft was the only one but they dont exist anymore...


sure de ferran and lowes fernandez and Andretti beat the porsche s a fewtimes but they where very sporadic....Fernandez had reliabilty woes at every track which was odd for the acura. Andretti was muscical chairs...and de ferran made a few mistakes in the season as well.

not many are more drilled than Penske's guys...

[hondafan37]

Originally Posted by Audi Racer
Well only one team technically....Highcroft was the only one but they dont exist anymore...


sure de ferran and lowes fernandez and Andretti beat the porsche s a fewtimes but they where very sporadic....Fernandez had reliabilty woes at every track which was odd for the acura. Andretti was muscical chairs...and de ferran made a few mistakes in the season as well.

not many are more drilled than Penske's guys...

Do you remember that Porsche entry in the ALMS in the last race of 2005, and Acura entry in the first race of 2007. The maduration year`s of Acura have been in 2009, but both Audi and Porsche retired.
The Acura ARX 02A debut with a pole position in Sebring circuit that was totally unfavorable. This car was designed for circuits such as Mid Ohio, Laguna Seca, Lime Rock, Miller, Detroit, San Petersburg or Long Beach. I think that in this circuits the ARX 02A had beaten the Audi R15 TDI and Porsche RS Spyder.

[Gingers4Justice]

I wouldn't mind Penske running at Le Mans so long as there was another German works team. Wouldn't seem like Porsche had properly returned if they were running under the banner of very-well known race team and had the stars and stripes on the side.

Perhaps Porsche could go for 4 cars - 2 from Penske and 2 more from a current semi-works GT team. Is there any good reason why this can't be Felbermahyyysdfaetukg or however you spell it?

[R4z3rw33n]

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

I wouldn't mind Penske running at Le Mans so long as there was another German works team. Wouldn't seem like Porsche had properly returned if they were running under the banner of very-well known race team and had the stars and stripes on the side.

Perhaps Porsche could go for 4 cars - 2 from Penske and 2 more from a current semi-works GT team. Is there any good reason why this can't be Felbermahyyysdfaetukg or however you spell it?

It's definitely an interesting idea. I'd love to see Felbermayr let loose in P1.
It's a pretty safe assumption that Felbermayr Jnr/Snr & Reid would want to continue running in GT. As that's being supported, I'm not sure Porsche would want to lose their strongest GTE-PRO outfit, either.

I don't know a great deal about the inner workings of the team, but supporting 2x GTE/2x LMP1 seems like a substantial step up from their current situation. Even with factory-support.
It's still a nice thought.

[AndrewF31]

Not really related with the LMP1 project but Porsche seems poised to promote their Hybrid technology:
The Porsche Hybrid will be doing some promotional tests at Estoril during this week with a local driver: http://www.lemansportugal.com/destaq...os-convidados/

Trying to encourage buyers I see, and to promote Hybrid technology.