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30 Jun 2011, 16:52
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Audi Sport Statement on Porsche’s Le Mans return
“This is the decision of Porsche company, a decision in which Audi is not involved. Audi relishes the prospect of every strong new opponent at Le Mans and in the new FIA Sportscar World Championship. Porsche’s entry into the LMP1 class is evidence of the high level of attraction of sport prototypes”.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:09
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so what do we know about the 2014 rules?
BTW there could be another reason for porsche return, Audi now have 10 Le Mans victories and by 2014 that number could climb to 13, and porsche has 14 victories. the other 2 that porshce always count are with the engine only, the TWR Porsche WSC-95 was only porsche powered, the chassis was Jaguar.
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To launch a new FIA GT2 category based on strict technical rules, with limited wavers and ‘balance of performance' limited to success ballast. A category where GT manufacturers will prove through competition they can produce the best road going GT car.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:13
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This is amazing!
Porsche, Audi and Peugeot! (and with Toyota lurking)
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People to blame if we get a rainy Le Mans:
Mal, Steptoe and Aysedasi!
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30 Jun 2011, 17:13
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Arakis- are showing your envy. The ACO and everyone else counts Porsche wins at Le Mans as being 16. What you choose to believe or count is your problem.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:13
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Originally Posted by arakis
so what do we know about the 2014 rules?
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http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsjuly10.html
Go to "MINUTES OF THE LMP CONSTRUCTORS MEETING JUNE, 30th 2010".
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30 Jun 2011, 17:17
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Originally Posted by Stranger
"FIA Sportscar World Championship"
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Interesting to call it that instead of WEC. Is that even technically correct?
The E word was dropped from the name in 1986 because manufacturers thought it was misleading. I can already see that happening again.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:17
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Originally Posted by The Badger
COME ON FERRARI ..... RISE TO THE CHALLANGE , if you can !!!
I want to see Joest returning to the Porsche fold , where he came from and where he should be .
Shove Penske !!!
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Joest are immense, but it would be a huge deal for sportscar racing, at world championship level, to have a US team representing Porsche.
Potentially, the biggest news from Porsche's entry, is their history of supplying customer cars.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:21
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Porsche has 16 wins.
2014 is so far away though, a lot can change for the worst in the meantime and Porsche could be vaporware or committed to racing alone in a class with no serious manufacturer interest. ALMS might well be gone by then and privateers and the WEC have to survive for two years.
And of course the world economy has to be good enough to allow spoiled billionaire sons to come and fill the field. Motor racing (F1 excluded) is making less and less sense financially for manufacturers to get to the general public; unless the Chinese become big time motorsport junkies soon...
Yay.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:21
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This is very good news...Cant wait for 2014.......
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30 Jun 2011, 17:25
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Originally Posted by Spyderman
Arakis- are showing your envy. The ACO and everyone else counts Porsche wins at Le Mans as being 16. What you choose to believe or count is your problem.
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why do you belive that everything I say is BS. I am happy for porsche and couldn't care less how many victories it has.
the only thing I car about is Porsche vs Ferrari direct competition, and that is only in GTE.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:27
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Originally Posted by helgi
Is there any risk of closing LMP1 category, because it's too dangerous (for example), and putting a new LMGT for supercars such as Porsche 918 and unchained McLaren MP4-12. And there's a rumour of a new super GT from Ferrari that will suit that category well. So, is there any risk to lose LMP1?
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Purpose built race cars are safer than production
based machines.
The ACO are backing P1 because it's a laboratory to develop new technologies, a GT based class looks towards current developments.
GTE Pro has the potential to allow hybrids and such, into which the Mclaren MP4-12 would fit.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:28
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??. Sorry joest probably isn't moving to Porsche . And Audi is not leaving Lemans .......I think that this was an internal decision from Porsche....Not VAG. VAG may own all the companies but they probably said to Porsche "do as you see fit"......Why does every one think Audi is withdrawing? The company relation means nothing......Audi and Porsche battled in the VLN and nurburgring 24 hours
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30 Jun 2011, 17:29
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Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz
All we need is for Toyota/Dome to announce their future Le Mans plans and we would have a real party in LMP1.
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On Twitter ( I know, I know) it was said the Toyota is being developed in Cologne.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Acid09
To be competitive in LMP1 you have to spend almost F1-like money and I seriously don't see VAG running two major programmes like that at once in the same series..it makes no sense.
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I think the amount Audi and Peugeot are spending is actually 1/10 that of an F1 project.......Not equal to. No where near in fact.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:32
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