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16 Jul 2012, 16:55
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Originally Posted by Félix
All these driver discussions/speculation in endurance racing just make me laugh. Give anyone an Audi and they'll look super fast. Even a kiddo with some F3 experience. Just look at Rinaldo Capello; I could easily think of a hundred drivers who would turn faster laptimes at Audi. Give them sufficient mileage in a factory team with superior equipment and they'll be "stars". Heidfeld pretty much beat everyone at Rebellion this year at LM but he was still a lot slower than the Audi drivers so was he the best driver on track or was he inferior to everyone at Audi??? The only way to look bad in endurance racing is when you crash often - and even then guys like McNish and Bouillon are still stars.
It's auto racing; it's much more about equipment than driver - especially in endurance racing - but we'll never know whether the driver accounts for 40% or 5% of it.
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Party Pooper! You're just trying to spoil everyone's fun!
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17 Jul 2012, 08:52
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#842
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Party Pooper! You're just trying to spoil everyone's fun!
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He is right though. You're looking for the potential in terms of outright pace but just as importantly you need someone who can manage traffic and gets the endurance mindset.
It seems that these days works teams find the guys with the speed and then try to rein them in once they start hitting slower cars.
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17 Jul 2012, 10:32
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Originally Posted by Simmi
He is right though. You're looking for the potential in terms of outright pace but just as importantly you need someone who can manage traffic and gets the endurance mindset.
It seems that these days works teams find the guys with the speed and then try to rein them in once they start hitting slower cars.
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Something Hindy has commented upon - far too many' F1 attitudes' with some of the drivers. Not appreciating multi-class racing.
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18 Jul 2012, 11:59
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Porsche probably won't struggle too much with this though, as many of their drivers are likely to be the ones the ex-F1 fellas have been driving in to.
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19 Jul 2012, 04:30
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I can't imagine Porsche using a trademark logo on their own just to make an homage livery.
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19 Jul 2012, 09:31
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I think Gulf is a much more likely livery if a historic livery is chosen.
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19 Jul 2012, 09:48
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I think Gulf is a much more likely livery if a historic livery is chosen.
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Gulf Oil LP is still an existing oil company and judging by how many teams have a gulf sponsorship (oak, amr, gulf mclaren, gulf lola nissan etc...) i guess that there are all those blue/orange liveries because of economic reasons, not because in motorsport there a lot of nostalgic people...
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19 Jul 2012, 10:40
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Porsche is selling Martini Racing clothing for a while now.
Last edited by flor; 19 Jul 2012 at 10:43.
Reason: quoted wrong person
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19 Jul 2012, 10:45
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Porsche is selling Martini Racing clothing for a while now.
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Was thinking the exact same thing. Would love to see this, even if they had two 'team' cars and then a third in Martini livery. It would be great and certainly one for the fans.
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19 Jul 2012, 10:52
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sincerly i link martini to lancia more than porsche, BTW will be useless because they can just to use the martini paintscheme on the livery.
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19 Jul 2012, 11:28
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That car looks great, no matter what livery is on it. Can't wait to see one in person someday.
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19 Jul 2012, 13:51
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What a beautiful car! From the side view it sort of reminds me of the Noble M600.
And about Porsche's livery, Martini sponsorship would be great but I personally love the orange/white/grey PIP livery that they use on the GT3-R Hybrid.
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19 Jul 2012, 14:14
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Cool car and I like the black & grey Martini livery. 
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19 Jul 2012, 16:49
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If they ended up having that livery in WEC, at minimum they would have to remove the texts at Le Mans or circumvent France's tight alcohol advertising laws some other way.
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