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My concern is if this is a sign of things to come. As has been said, the lure of fresher and louder GRC is pulling the regulars away from the established ERC.
Rx-guru raises a valid point in that it is just a small number of drivers departing, but what if this exodus rates continues?... To be honest OMSE are the team I'm holding my breath for. I thought Foust was one of the stars of the ERC in 2011 and I'd like to see him back for another crack at the title in 2012. With Binks onboard as well it would be great to see him in a full time ERC drive, especially as the other two British hopefuls have gone to the US. As the first team to mount a dedicated effort in the US though, I have a horrible feeling that their (OMSE) priority will lie with the GRC as well... ...hopefully I'm wrong though! |
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I agree with Eddi - why all the panic? Sure there will end up being 4-5 regulars from the ERC in GRC. THis is hardly the end of the series or a return to weak fields. I think getting into - even an 8 car - A Final is still going to be really difficult and entries will be strong.
Rather than being bitter, we should hope and encourage European organizers, promoters, etc to do a better job. If they had taken different paths over the last few years (decades?) they woudln't have squandered the best form of motorsport on the planet. Hopefully this is a wake up call. I will see what I can find out about international television coverage. With the international events in 2013 I would hope that ESPN makes some progress on this. Best Buy will be doing some very cool live stuff and all will be revealed soon. If the snow holds off our launch will include a demo on the rooftop parking lot of our Corporate Campus streamed live around the world...... Mark |
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13 Jan 2012, 11:23 (Ref:3011111) | #128 | |
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Plz make "soon" this weekend, to plan our holidays :-)
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Thank you!
My belief is that the GRC will lift the ERC. The American version will always be different and won't please the purists. GRC still has a lot to learn about organization from the ERC and maybe the ERC will pick some marketing and promotion ideas up from the GRC. Certainly a big enough world for everyone. Of course, we will all stop talking once the racing starts and that happens within a week of eachother! Mark |
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Same here : i am not really in panic. I follow rallycross for more than 30 yrs now, end renewing can be interesting. And that's why i am keen to see the dates and venues : to plan our holiday and mix things with visiting an American rallycross-weekend :-)
I do hope Europe and America will work together to build up the level! But no need of artificially made high bumps/jumps which results in a higer chance of destroying rallycross-cars! :-) Andy Scott proves you don't need them to fly high :-) |
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As I said, there will of course other drivers in the spotlight. Sub-top teams will now quickly get in an A-final. I just hope great racing. Quote:
I had really hoped that Global Championship, would actually be a World Championship. So that the Amerikan drivers did some european races as well. I completely agree with you that, organizers, etc. their own sports media have almost achieved. Everyone in the ERC has been busywith its own organization (understandably, it's not easy)or iown interest. You can not even call it promotion.I really hope it is a wale up call. The events are filmed well enough, but those images must still reach the public,not just the die hard fans. When I speak only for Belgium alone, there is more intrested in WRC, WTCC and F1, while there are no Belgian at the top. While people like Koen Pauwels and Mickaël Descheemaker delivered magnificent performances in 2011, they are hardly made the media. Quote:
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Whether or not this GRC will succeed is hard to say. I think there is room in the marketplace for this, but it has to be promoted to get the attention it needs to survive and the show and organization has to be top notch as well. There were tons of grumbles in the background about various things about this championship in regards to money and organization last year, so when you go for the big leagues you've got to have all that ticking over, otherwise competitors get ticked, fans get ticked and it muddies the water. The rally community in the USA is almost a niche within a niche. It's very small in relation even to other esoteric championships. Europe had a great tradition of racing on public roads going back 110 years, some of which evolved into what is now rally, but in the USA there was some of that, but a lot of popular racing in the USA was always on ovals and there isn't that much of a tradition of running on public roads. So rally in the USA has always been a backwater, running far away from cities out in the woods near small towns. There is a fan base of rally but it's in isolated regions in the USA. |
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What if their best leave for the US? They can say "watch here the stars of the future!" Plus, retired GRX drivers may return to race in Europe - "watch the legends!". |
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15 Jan 2012, 08:44 (Ref:3011809) | #136 | ||
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Lol "the typical European wont travel to the US", well the drivers are fella, if no-one else is, and that is who we pay to watch!
Money talks and at the moment the ERC are doing little to attract it, and I see now also that even trakcs over here are looking at GRC, Holjes has linked up with them. |
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If the GRX was more in the european style but with all the promotion and razzamataz then yes it could be really good for rallycross as a whole but dont change things so much that rallycross almost becomes two different forms of the sport but under the same name, even more confusing when the US already as a form of motorsport called rallycross! |
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15 Jan 2012, 13:37 (Ref:3011877) | #138 | ||
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What is ERX and what GRX? Do you talk about ERC and GRC? And if so, why not use the common abbreviations?
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15 Jan 2012, 21:33 (Ref:3012063) | #139 | |
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Sorry I apologise for my huge error and for any confusion it might have caused anyone. GRC not GRX :
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17 Jan 2012, 09:22 (Ref:3012732) | #140 | |
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Isn't it strange nothing is announced about the venues, where they will race this season? It is very difficult to plan things already or maybe they don't want any public at the events :-)
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(Very) good things come to those who wait.......had thought it would be a couple of weeks ago but there are always details. Inside scoop is very exciting and GRC hope to announce something this week.
All planning towards April 15...... |
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Enough teasing, just tell us the plan!
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To me, RC is Rally Championship or Radio Control. Rallycross is RX.
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The official TV coverage is also using ERX.
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I assume ERC is hiring Coureyn so I name that the official coverage.
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I think the reason he's using ERX for ERallycrossC is because he's also covering the ERallyC.
http://www.racing-action.com But have to admit it's confusing. |
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