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1 Dec 2011, 17:28
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On the other hand I wold not want to be in a case that relied heavily on a 'witness's memory' either. Memory is very good at making stuff up to fill the gaps and very bad at recalling which bits were made up and which
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Agreed there Grant, years ago I had an idiot that pulled out behind my van not noticing that I was towing a trailer !
His mates that ran out of their houses seemed to have seen it differently while they were watching TV ! but fortunatly it did'nt work in the insurance claim 
Back to the thread subject.
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1 Dec 2011, 18:50
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What is more worrying is that video evidence could be used in a court case and in this day and age can be manipulated by CG images to possibly swing the case.
Any photo of "an incident" can be a seller if it has enough importance for the" daily rubbish" if it's the only one that has been taken
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Not too much of an issue...it's easy for the experts to determine if an image has been manipulated in any way. The Police have to use Data Verification Kits (I know Canon do one for about £700 or so, depending on camera model) This provides encryption to prevent images/video being altered prior to use as evidence
A half decent solicitor would be able to argue that any images etc without this type of encryption could have been compromised, and that would taint the validity of the evidence
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1 Dec 2011, 19:09
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Not too much of an issue...it's easy for the experts to determine if an image has been manipulated in any way. The Police have to use Data Verification Kits (I know Canon do one for about £700 or so, depending on camera model) This provides encryption to prevent images/video being altered prior to use as evidence
A half decent solicitor would be able to argue that any images etc without this type of encryption could have been compromised, and that would taint the validity of the evidence
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Whilst such rules exist most things should be fine ... but over time things change and constraints are eroded.
Of course if all evidence can be 'questioned' then there will be no reliable evidence. that is generally accepted and 'the law' would, perhaps, be resolved as a technical ****ing contest.
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1 Dec 2011, 22:39
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Originally Posted by grantp
Whilst such rules exist most things should be fine ... but over time things change and constraints are eroded.
Of course if all evidence can be 'questioned' then there will be no reliable evidence. that is generally accepted and 'the law' would, perhaps, be resolved as a technical ****ing contest.
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time for the mods to hand out a warning! i learnt not to ** words a little while ago
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2 Dec 2011, 00:12
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time for the mods to hand out a warning! i learnt not to ** words a little while ago 
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Nope, the system did it automatically - not that I have any evidence to prove that of course .....
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2 Dec 2011, 08:31
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Yes, the system didn't do it automatically - I have the evidence to prove that of course ..... 
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It looked different on my PC, honest !
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10 Dec 2011, 09:21
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Roger Albert Clark Rally
What a superb event and with the snow in the forests a great chance to capture classic rallying at its best. The Lancia Stratos and Fulvia, Talbot Lotus Sunbeam, various SAAB 96s and of course a host of MK1 and MK11 Escorts. Lots of sideways stuff and atmosphere in service areas. We enjoyed reporting every minute. http://www.retro-speed.co.uk
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18 Dec 2011, 13:08
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I agree the digital age has been a double edged sword for everyone in their respective trades.
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22 Dec 2011, 13:58
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An interesting, and thought provoking, article...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-16243313
Happy Christmas!!!
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23 Dec 2011, 14:35
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Freelancers are not necessarily a dying breed, there will always be a need for freelancers to a point. I think the issue is that unless you work for free (like I did for 18 months) then it is extremely difficult to get an 'in' as a photographer. I've not shot as media at a race since the Silverstone Classic in 2010, I desperately want to get back into it, but unless I'm getting some of my expenses covered I can't justify it anymore. Especially with the long distances I have to travel to get to some events, the high cost of petrol doesn't help things either.
I think the problem lies with a lot of websites/publications etc that expect something for nothing, It's a sad state of affairs that needs to be changed IMO. While I've had fantastic memories of working as media with some people on this very forum, it can be quite depressing when you look at your bank account and see you've spent £100+ and for all the hard work and graft you've put in, you haven't been paid a penny for it.
Unfortunately, if I want to get back into the media side of things, I'll have no choice but to work for free again. That's if I can even get back in after such a long hiatus away from the media side of things.
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28 May 2012, 19:09
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Brands Hatch Photo Oppotunities
I thought the open area at Druids a great place to get close to the cars. Well done MSV.
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