Pre-1960 vehicles to be exempt from MoT Test

[gary396]

Just been announced that vehicles manufactured before 1960 will no longer have to have to pass an MoT (effective from 18 November this year):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18146326

[Peter Mallett]

Moved to Classic Cars forum.

[Tim Falce]

That's a result for me then.

[Al Weyman]

Not sure about this one as it seems like a rust worms charter. Maybe an annual structual condition only would have made more sense IMHO.

[Peter Mallett]

If you consider that a major portion of these cars will have; no windscreen washers, in some cases no windscreen, cable operated drum brakes, no catalytic converter, lights on cycle pods, ash frames etc. then the MOT makes no sense anyway.

[VIVA GT]

This seems like another stupid governmental decision made by someone who hasn't got any grasp of reality, but wants to curry favour on the grounds of 'saving people money'.
Whereas I do accept that the majority of Classic car owners will be enthusiasts, who wouldn't dream of having their car in an un-road-worthy condition, I still think that there will be a minority of motorists attracted to running an old banger on the road because it's cheap. These type of motorists will not spend on anything unless they're forced to, meaning that there will be an additional number of death traps joining us all on the roads.
This is not what I consider as good news...

[MagnetON]

Originally Posted by gary396

Just been announced that vehicles manufactured before 1960 will no longer have to have to pass an MoT (effective from 18 November this year):

Here it's before 1/1/1980 that are exempt and a €48 yearly Road Tax

[midgetman]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

This seems like another stupid governmental decision made by someone who hasn't got any grasp of reality, but wants to curry favour on the grounds of 'saving people money'.
Whereas I do accept that the majority of Classic car owners will be enthusiasts, who wouldn't dream of having their car in an un-road-worthy condition, I still think that there will be a minority of motorists attracted to running an old banger on the road because it's cheap. These type of motorists will not spend on anything unless they're forced to, meaning that there will be an additional number of death traps joining us all on the roads.
This is not what I consider as good news...

Really? You really, really think that some irresponsible scrote will be running a pre 1960 car just to avoid MOT? Slow, noisy, expensive on fuel, unreliable, uncomfortable, leaky death traps that will cost far, far more to drive than it will for a 1990s banger to get through an MOT? Plus pre 1960 cars will be much, much more expensive to buy than an old Eurobox/Japbox/w.h.y.

Get a grip! I suspect there needs to be a dose of reality on this forum....

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by midgetman

Really? You really, really think that some irresponsible scrote will be running a pre 1960 car just to avoid MOT? Slow, noisy, expensive on fuel, unreliable, uncomfortable, leaky death traps that will cost far, far more to drive than it will for a 1990s banger to get through an MOT? Plus pre 1960 cars will be much, much more expensive to buy than an old Eurobox/Japbox/w.h.y.

Get a grip! I suspect there needs to be a dose of reality on this forum....

Sorry to have caused you so much outrage chap!
I am not referring to the likes of you and our fellow posters on this forum, we are all enthusiasts who would ensure that 'our' classics are totally safe. Working as I do in the motor-trade where people are prolonging service intervals etc, and leaving MoT testing until the last minute in a vain bid to save money leads me to believe that some unscupulous individuals may be tempted to offer their aged next door neighbour £50.00 for the rusting Morris Minor in his back garden, so they can drive it around, without the cost of keeping it safe & road-worthy.*
(*This is of course, just my opinion, but one that I am perfectly entitled to have )

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Working as I do in the motor-trade where people are prolonging service intervals etc, and leaving MoT testing until the last minute in a vain bid to save money leads me to believe that some unscupulous individuals may be tempted to offer their aged next door neighbour £50.00 for the rusting Morris Minor in his back garden, so they can drive it around, without the cost of keeping it safe & road-worthy.*
(*This is of course, just my opinion, but one that I am perfectly entitled to have )

If you read the article properly it does say that all cars still need to be roadworthy, there are plenty of MOTd cars ne and old on the road that are not, the MOT is only a certificate of roadworthyness on the day It's issued. As there are ever increasing VOSA and police roadside check points I don't think you argument holds water as I'm sure these vehicles will be increasngly targeted, not that you see many on the road anyway.

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

If you read the article properly it does say that all cars still need to be roadworthy, there are plenty of MOTd cars ne and old on the road that are not, the MOT is only a certificate of roadworthyness on the day It's issued. As there are ever increasing VOSA and police roadside check points I don't think you argument holds water as I'm sure these vehicles will be increasngly targeted, not that you see many on the road anyway.

OK, thanks for all your reassurance, I'll stop panicking...

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

If you read the article properly it does say that all cars still need to be roadworthy, there are plenty of MOTd cars ne and old on the road that are not, the MOT is only a certificate of roadworthyness on the day It's issued. As there are ever increasing VOSA and police roadside check points I don't think you argument holds water as I'm sure these vehicles will be increasngly targeted, not that you see many on the road anyway.

Yep. A nice diversion from a boring day for a VOSA inspector or youngish plod-in-a-car.

Plus no easy record of when something was last checked and how many miles it may or may not have travelled since that time.

The potential for aggravation could, and I stress could, be quite high. All to save £40 odd quid a year for half a dozen outings. (Or something like that.)


ETA:

Turns out this is hardly new news.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/news/statements/penning-20111103/


Just the UK falling into line with EU policy ...

[GORDON STREETER]

There are a fair number of farmers that run about in "TonkaToy" pick up trucks that are registered as farm implements that don't have to have an MOT but are limited as to how far they can travel in a radius of the *registered address.*
The same thing applies in that they are supposed to be kept in a condition for an MOT pass and obviously can be pulled up by the law.
This is all very well but most that I see look like they have done a few laps of a banger circuit with bald tyres and smashed lamps etc.
*By clever addressing ie JOE BLOGGS FARMS KENT PLC you can drive miles !

[GORDON STREETER]

Also by clever registering you can run red diesel on the road legally in trucks and vans. if you talk to most road police they tend not to pull farm vehicles up because the law is a bit "ambiguous" and unless the fuzz are really clued up they don't bother.
OK they are supposed to have limited mileage and such, but how can that be "policed"
Sorry to go off of thread

[grantp]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

Also by clever registering you can run red diesel on the road legally in trucks and vans. if you talk to most road police they tend not to pull farm vehicles up because the law is a bit "ambiguous" and unless the fuzz are really clued up they don't bother.
OK they are supposed to have limited mileage and such, but how can that be "policed"
Sorry to go off of thread

I've often wondered how it can possibly be economic to run a 4x4 and trailer with 2 sheep in it to a market somewhere miles away, and then back again (presumably with 2 different sheep) and still expect to make a profit with diesel at the price it is.