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4 Apr 2012, 22:37
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signatures on old style PRCs
There seems to be a very ill-founded, incorrect rumour doing the rounds that signatures on old PRCs will not count for upgrades and everyone has to start again.
THIS IS COMPLETELY UNTRUE!!!!!!!!!!
All signatures on old PRCs are valid towards upgrades - all you have to do is send in both PRCs (old and new) when you apply for your upgrade.
If anyone tells you otherwise you have my permission to take them warmly by the throat and correct their misunderstanding
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5 Apr 2012, 07:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Hobson
If anyone tells you otherwise you have my permission to take them warmly by the throat and correct their misunderstanding
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As PC as ever Chris! 
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5 Apr 2012, 08:58
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it may help if observers wher puting comments on prc
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5 Apr 2012, 10:11
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You should always ask your Post Chief for a comment when getting your card back at the end of the day.
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5 Apr 2012, 10:28
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and some times you'll get a polite one 
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If you see it phone it, if you phone it, write it, remember you are the eyes & ears of the Clerk of the Course, if you don't tell me about it, how do you expect me to deal with it? Comments made are personal and dont reflect any club or MSA policy or view
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5 Apr 2012, 12:30
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Did an assessment for upgrade on Saturday on new PRC.........his flagging assessment had been done on old one! Both valid.......he will send both off! No problems!
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5 Apr 2012, 13:46
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I've got 3 sigs on my new PRC so far. One from a Post Chief & two from I/O's. All 3 were very quiet days so no comments were made.
Are comments a must?
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5 Apr 2012, 14:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MotorBreath
I've got 3 sigs on my new PRC so far. One from a Post Chief & two from I/O's. All 3 were very quiet days so no comments were made.
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Apart from wondering why you've got signatures from IOs, I would say that comments are an essential part of building up a picture of your experience; "a quiet day" is just as valid a comment as anything else.
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5 Apr 2012, 14:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MotorBreath
I've got 3 sigs on my new PRC so far. One from a Post Chief & two from I/O's. All 3 were very quiet days so no comments were made.
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As someone who graduated to Clerk some years ago, but was around when the original T&G Scheme was implemented, I confess to finding the new T&G Scheme a little bit complicated. However, in the circumstances you describe, under the original scheme, I would often add "A quiet day but remained attentive and interested at all times". Surely that is as much as we can expect of any marshal? If we all had to wait to attend several incidents before upgrading, we might have an unusually high number of older trainees!!
I do not believe the aims and objectives of the T&G Scheme have changed - we want well trained marshals but if the system becomes too bureaucratic or unwieldy, for something we all do as a hobby, there is a danger we may scare away new marshals. Let's always use the KISS principle where we can!
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5 Apr 2012, 14:39
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George, do nyou mean I have to kiss everyone whose card I sign?
Or do I have to Keep It Simple............Stupid?
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If you see it phone it, if you phone it, write it, remember you are the eyes & ears of the Clerk of the Course, if you don't tell me about it, how do you expect me to deal with it? Comments made are personal and dont reflect any club or MSA policy or view
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5 Apr 2012, 14:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MacGWC
...I would often add "A quiet day but remained attentive and interested at all times".
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You must have very small handwriting. 
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5 Apr 2012, 14:53
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Originally Posted by numbersix
You must have very small handwriting. |
Or words to that effect! Yes, it was a squeeze but it could be spread over other columns on the old cards, if I did wee writing!
I always felt it particularly appropriate to make some such comment when the marshal's card was getting near to the required number of signatures and had few if any comments from previous Observers. No comment could be construed in so many ways and I felt my job as an Observer was to assist not resist upgrades, for those who clearly warranted it.
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5 Apr 2012, 14:54
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Originally Posted by The Fat Clerk
George, do nyou mean I have to kiss everyone whose card I sign?
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Dave, you're a big enough chap to take the consequences of either action!
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5 Apr 2012, 15:05
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Remind me never to ask for a signature from a certain fat clerk in future! (even on a stewards report!)
Elaine has my deepest sympathies!
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5 Apr 2012, 15:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brand
Apart from wondering why you've got signatures from IOs, I would say that comments are an essential part of building up a picture of your experience; "a quiet day" is just as valid a comment as anything else.
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There was no PC present. I thought anyone in charge of a post & graded higher than yourself could sign for attendance... or am i wrong?
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