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Old 1 Jul 2012, 22:27   #1
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The end appears nigh (yet again)

http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-new...702-21bk0.html

Ecoboost Supercars just doesn't quite have the same ring to it....

I suppose, in the future the Ikea-Car rules will be amended to let you run whatever engine you want...





Especially if it means holding onto a struggling marque.




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Old 1 Jul 2012, 22:38   #2
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So instead of just the front splitter being held on by allen key screws the whole CotF is is it
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Old 1 Jul 2012, 23:01   #3
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So instead of just the front splitter being held on by allen key screws the whole CotF is, is it
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The V8 isn't going anywhere yet and it appears that article is merely based off of a personal opinion.
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The V8 isn't going anywhere yet and it appears that article is merely based off of a personal opinion.
But the personal opinion of a significant player in the game. The headline was a touch misleading as he did say the V8 would continue as a niche engine, but as a mainstream offering the V8 is pointless.
It's outdated technology, wasteful and inefficient in it's present form.
If Australian motorsport is to remain in any way relevant, then it needs to do what the ACO and F1 have done and embrace and encourage smaller more sophisticated engines.
A pushrod 5 litre V8 is as outdated as cross ply tyres and 8 track cartridges, We drove a small turbo diesel in France recently and it was not only economical but more than quick enough for road use.
That new 1 litre Ford Eco-Boost engine is a thing of beauty.
The holy grail of any high performance engine has always been 100BHP per litre, well this engine has about 30% more than that in road trim.
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I'm trying to work out what Rachel means when she says the end appears nigh.

end of what?
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The holy grail of any high performance engine has always been 100BHP per litre, well this engine has about 30% more than that in road trim.
100hp per litre in Naturally Aspirated form is the benchmark
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yes i am sure its true for road-cars....i mean who wants a gas guzzling donk under the bonnet when you can in fact get pretty good performance from either diesel and petrol engines with some forced induction.

But for the race track the V8 will live on for some time i think. its all about the sound, the feel and the whole package that brings fans in their droves to supercar and supertourer events in Aus and NZ.

Maybe, just maybe one day V8SC will use a 2.4L force-fed V8 to meet in the middle?

I suppose the same can be said for F1. This year they are still using small V8's but next year (and please correct me if i am wrong) they are going to a 1.6L Turbo....and thats at the pinnacle of motorsport!

I dont think there is ever an end in sight (maybe for certain engine configurations) as motorsport will always be with us and will develop with the times. Just like the introduction of E85 into V8SC was an evolution that was supposed to mirror what was happening in the real world of motoring.

Who knows, maybe one day will see a V8SC running very small block V8 engines with super/turbo chargers etc, with DRS and KERS......now that would be interesting to watch
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I'm trying to work out what Rachel means when she says the end appears nigh.

end of what?

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I personally blame Bob Jane for blueing with CAMS, Tony Cochrane for starting all this V8 SC nonsense, CAMS for arguing with Bob, then selling the farm to TC, Julia Gillard for lying,
Bob Brown (poor bloke has never been the same after Whitney’s sad passing) for duping the lying trollop PM into this Carbon Tax nonsense, and Nick Xenophon, because he has a funny name


Oh and print journalists for writing stories designed to kill off V8 engines (all just a little bit of history repeating)
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I personally blame Bob Jane for blueing with CAMS, Tony Cochrane for starting all this V8 SC nonsense, CAMS for arguing with Bob, then selling the farm to TC, Julia Gillard for lying,
Bob Brown (poor bloke has never been the same after Whitney’s sad passing) for duping the lying trollop PM into this Carbon Tax nonsense, and Nick Xenophon, because he has a funny name


Oh and print journalists for writing stories designed to kill off V8 engines (all just a little bit of history repeating)
Well of course, the world is going to end of this year!
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Oh and print journalists for writing stories designed to kill off V8 engines (all just a little bit of history repeating)
Not sure if you're old enough to remember the old V8 til '98 campaign Rachel??

and that was 1998 not 2098 by the way
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Not sure if you're old enough to remember the old V8 til '98 campaign Rachel??

and that was 1998 not 2098 by the way
Now Paul, you know full well how old I am, and I take great offense at your post...

I suppose it could have been worse, you might have said 1898...
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Don't worry, there'll still be V8s in the B12hr........everyone can get their yearly "fix" there.
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Ford Australia killed the Ford V8 in 1983, that worked well for them.
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Ford Australia killed the Ford V8 in 1983, that worked well for them.
Of course during most of the time the Falcon was without a V8 it outsold the Commodore.
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