2012/2013 NZ summer series

[NZSTfan]

Shauns comments were bang on. Simple really.

And Shaun, the beard has to go mate

I didn't know that about FG01 though, that really is interesting. So will that race in V8CC with the FG panels but with old box and engine? Will be the prettiest car out there, but no doubt will soon be joined by the other two 'prototypes'.

Now all that ST have to do is to get a Toyota all dressed up and racing

Lets move on to greener pastures everyone.......the new gaurd is firmly in place.

[Vanishing Point]

Promax, all my info to date has been accurate, the source of my information is not important.. All that matters is my information is honest and correct... and it is. it seems you are more interested in the source of my intel rather than the mess NZ Motorsport is in.. Thanks to NZMS.

[Goat Boy]

I notice that there was a statement made the day after the press release:

"Yesterday it was announced that Motorsport Promotions Ltd was restructuring its personnel and looking ahead to a fresh start for the upcoming summer of motorsport, and beyond.

We caught up with David Dovey, the Motorsport Promotions Ltd Interim Management Team Leader and Board Member, regarding the immediate future of the company, the NZV8s and its supporting classes.

“MPL is an important asset owned jointly by the circuits owning clubs, circuit operating clubs and Motorsport NZ," David says.

"This link has allowed stability and growth over the last 15 years. While there is uncertainty and much change currently, the new board and new management of MPL is committed to the future, and it may be very different to what is currently on offer.

"This commitment will reward us all in time with a new breed of champions and household names associated with our sporting success.

"The success of the IRC classes and its solidarity to the Gold Star Championship series will ensure the series for the coming season will be an entertainment package fitting of such quality sporting events.”

Yesterday's statement is an important step for the future of motor racing in this country. Stay tuned for more updates in the coming days and weeks, regarding the support class structure, series calendar and other exciting developments.

Ensure you follow our Facebook Page and Twitter Feed for regular news & multimedia relating to the NZV8s and supporting categories!"

So what does that actually mean? IMO it means they don't have a clue about what they are going to do next, but are trying to stay upbeat about it.

It is possible to have a decent series, but it would have to be in conjunction with ST's. And if they don't want that, then MPL should simply vote itself out of existence, along with its hopes of a Tier 1 "Gold Star" championship.

[mountainstar]

I think the market has voted and the market has said they don't want the national FIA body involved in managing and controlling national motor racing series.

In the past couple of months we have seen them kick the can down the road with all sorts of changes but it's still not going to pull people in and enough competitors to make it worthwhile.

Like I said months ago, there are different price points and levels people are capable or interested in competing at. I would simply fold what remains of NZV8's into the Challenge Cup and that includes the new car too. Not everyone wants a $200-$300K car or wants to compete at that level.

Blocking out the south island is not the best idea, as all of the races down there get strong support considering the population, especially when there is a good program of race series and plenty of cars on the card.

[NZSTfan]

Totally agree with Mstar on the south island rounds. You simply cannot ignore the south island events especially seeing as they have great tracks down there and the fan-base is huge.

Bring on the ST's at Teretonga one day

[Goat Boy]

It's just an act of desperation to try and get more cars on the grid of their NZV8 series, which it would seem is dead but still twitching occasionally, and they are trying vainly to resuscitate it.

Time to admit that the ST's are what people (apart from promax any maybe one or two others) want to see, so if you take the best of the other series as support we could have really good crowd numbers for every round.

[Vanishing Point]

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

It's just an act of desperation to try and get more cars on the grid of their NZV8 series, which it would seem is dead but still twitching occasionally, and they are trying vainly to resuscitate it.

Time to admit that the ST's are what people (apart from promax any maybe one or two others) want to see, so if you take the best of the other series as support we could have really good crowd numbers for every round.

Right on GB

[promax]

Originally Posted by Vanishing Point

Promax, all my info to date has been accurate, the source of my information is not important.. All that matters is my information is honest and correct... and it is. it seems you are more interested in the source of my intel rather than the mess NZ Motorsport is in.. Thanks to NZMS.

you said the utes were running with st instead of tier 1

after you read it on facebook. wasn't "the street" meant to your source?


you said the cc were running with st instead of tier 1

cc are the st version of NZV8s. they already run with st


you said the CMC were running with st instead of tier 1

another facebook post CMC run support for a number of different series including tier 1. are you also gonna claim CMC will be a no show at the MG meetings, IRC or Muscle Car Masters.. since they are exclusive to st?


you posted a link to article claiming cars weren't being built

that article wasn't accurate at all, eh?


you said the plug was about to be pulled on the NZV8's

yet you can't name a date or a source and the plug is still in?? wtf? that's like me saying... the word on the street is McCaw and DC are about to retire from the ABs. no doubt the day will come one day.. but it doesn't mean "the street was an accurate source of info more proof would help i mean.. i don't wanna waste my money buying a car for a series that doesn't exists anymore

[promax]

Originally Posted by mountainstar

Blocking out the south island is not the best idea, as all of the races down there get strong support considering the population, especially when there is a good program of race series and plenty of cars on the card.

agree!

[promax]

for what 16 cars? since when did i say there would be 16 NZV8s on any grid? it's pretty obvious there won't be 16 new NZV8s. all i wanted to know was when the plug was supposed to be pulled.. and if the plug pulling info was actually accurate. yet typical Icarus_nz.. tries to act all high and mighty when i ask a question that doesn't concern him. strange, you seem to be offended by the fact the st series doesn't interest me at all and that i prefer the NZV8 concept. if that's the case.. why bother reading my posts in a thread for a series you clearly don't like? rather sad really.

[Icarus_nz]

Originally Posted by promax

for what 16 cars? since when did i say there would be 16 NZV8s on any grid? it's pretty obvious there won't be 16 new NZV8s.

I haven't put that very well. Its obvious there will only be 3 or 4 of the new cars. The game I was inviting you to play was to name 12 more people who would help fill the grid?

Actually thats a game I'd like to invite all to play. Put your blue sky hats n and have a go at naming a grid
For extra credit match them to a chassis.

As for the pin being pulled. I call believable and and am happy to be patient

[promax]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

I didn't know that about FG01 though, that really is interesting. So will that race in V8CC with the FG panels but with old box and engine? Will be the prettiest car out there, but no doubt will soon be joined by the other two 'prototypes'.

which Mackenzie car is racing in Taupo? the BA or the FG?

[promax]

Originally Posted by Icarus_nz

I haven't put that very well. Its obvious there will only be 3 or 4 of the new cars. The game I was inviting you to play was to name 12 more people who would help fill the grid?

Actually thats a game I'd like to invite all to play. Put your blue sky hats n and have a go at naming a grid
For extra credit match them to a chassis.

As for the pin being pulled. I call believable and and am happy to be patient

and i thought the 90 minutes it took to remove my tooth yesterday was painfull!

if you were as clever as you claim to be.. you'd know that there is more than one outcomes to this ***** fight of egos. the most likely one.. if both sides decide to kiss and make up.. is the one brought up by mountainstar many months ago. cc merges with NZV8.. no plug is pulled.. everyone is happy.. everyone gets on with racing.

[Goat Boy]

Originally Posted by promax

...there is more than one outcome to this ***** fight of egos. the most likely one.. if both sides decide to kiss and make up.. is the one brought up by mountainstar many months ago. cc merges with NZV8.. no plug is pulled.. everyone is happy.. everyone gets on with racing.

I think that is the outcome that most people (myself included) would like to see. But it would have to include the complete withdrawal of MPL from the picture (in its current form anyway, with Mr Short still on the scene).

If we all have one thing in common it has to be a love of motorsport, as either drivers, team owners or fans, so it would be a win-win to see nobody's money wasted and a really good single series that drew the crowds from both sides. But the biggest fly in the ointment right now is MPL (IMO that is)...

[mountainstar]

Originally Posted by Goat Boy

I think that is the outcome that most people (myself included) would like to see. But it would have to include the complete withdrawal of MPL from the picture (in its current form anyway, with Mr Short still on the scene).

If we all have one thing in common it has to be a love of motorsport, as either drivers, team owners or fans, so it would be a win-win to see nobody's money wasted and a really good single series that drew the crowds from both sides. But the biggest fly in the ointment right now is MPL (IMO that is)...

If competitors dry up from MPL or whatever it is called this week, then it will not be a going concern that can survive. And that seems to be happening.

If Tier 1 does survive then clearly some want that arrangement and good for them. It might be that every series doesn't want to run with Supertourers anyways or on everyone of those weekends.

Time will tell and it will work itself out in the end.